www2.ljworld.com — “We’re missing about half of our trucks from the National Guard units. We are missing flatbeds. We are missing Humvees. We are missing a number of our well-trained National Guard personnel. The equipment has been sent overseas when our troops are deployed and not restored at the same level..."
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sonofdy1May 7, 2007
@flernkSo as a "christian" you are condemning me for condemning the governor of Kansas. Got it. I am heartless for pointing out that the DEMOCRATIC governor was the first to make cheap political points from this. Got it. So I am wrong in pointing out there is plenty of equipment already there that she seems to have ignored. Got it.Stop trying to make something out of this that there isn't. I never attacked the victim, just the governors blatant use of the event to attack bush. Its your party who tries to blame everyone else but themselves. Who runs Kansas again? Oh that's right, ITS THE DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR. So take you hate filled rant and shove it because I am not buying your hate.
armor1901May 8, 2007
You know, sonofdy1 DOES make a valid point. The primary industry in the state of KS would lead you to think that even without the National Guard, there probably is a lot of equipment that can be used for relief. No, that doesn't mean they shouldn't be helped, I'm just saying you can't really overlook an obvious fact here.To say that the relief is being stalled because their equipment is in Iraq seems like a cheap shot at Bush. Obviously she never mentioned Bush, but of course everyone knows damn good and well Iraq war = Bush's fault, so if A=B=C then A=C. Go ahead and digg me down, but sonofdy1 isn't a piece of s**t for mentioning a couple things simply worth mentioning. If they merit discussion, then discuss, but don't silence because you don't want his viewpoint. I, for one, mostly agree with him.
altjeringaMay 8, 2007
Here is the deal. The governer can't order the citizenry, to use their equipment. Even if there was mass wave of volunteering of private equipment it would be a logistical nightmare to get it where it needed to be and to do what it needs to do. That is why we have organized units, FEMA, the National Gaurd, and the Army Corp of Engineers in place to handle such emergencies. They have plans, equipment, pre-established heirarchies, and protocals for dealing with these situations. If you listen to the governers whole speech instead reading the soundbits you'll find she isn't antagonistic. She's says very calmly that they don't have the equipment and have requested additional resources from the pentegon. The blame game is being played by the pundits on both the right and the left, not the governer herself.
eth4nMay 8, 2007
The National Guard is supposed to be ready to immediately help in a disaster. A bunch of random farm equipment isn't organized and trained for something like that... sure they can help eventually but the amount of time to mobilize would be about as long as sending the national guard from alaska.
armor1901May 8, 2007
QUOTE:Once again.... organizing the populus takes far more time and energy than calling upon ready existing resources. You can ask people to donate their trucks, but what about all the paperwork? What happens with Joe Farmer who was going to go into bankruptcy decides after this is all over that the state of Kansas ruined his truck and sues for damages? It's a very complicated legal mess to start requisitioning private property. Usually entails declaring martial law.When the English needed to get their people the hell across the English channel WW2 era, did they moan and bitch and whine and complain about how their fishing trawler isn't supposed to carry people or whatever or did they just DO IT?Don't f**king give me this bulls**t about how the people can't do it for whatever reason. In a crisis, people pull together, unless you're American, in which case lately you just blame others and point fingers and demand aid. Now I understand it's a complicated matter to sort things out when you get private aid from citizens, but if those people need aid THAT BADLY then I don't see what the huge issue is. If it NEEDS to get done, then instead of pointing fingers, direct your people to get it done.
sonofdy1May 8, 2007
The national guard has always had a wartime mission. It has fought in every war since it was created.
spacemonkeyzeroMay 8, 2007
No. He only wants to march. He doesn't actually want to DO anything. Just march and make it look like he's doing something.
sonofdy1May 8, 2007
@flernk:Nobody here has blamed the victims, just the weak governor who can seem to get herself together. Why do you lie so much?
leviathan777May 10, 2007
@sonofdy1Sign up for the war we have now or shut the f**k up.