spiegel.de — For years, al-Qaida and other terror groups have set up shop in the Internet. Those who track them have covertly followed. The companies SITE and IntelCenter have penetrated even deeper into the terror Web than most intelligence agencies.
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dkapuchinoAug 30, 2008
Well, more Muslims than our infidel troops are killed by Muslim suicide bombings, so I guess Tssst does have a point.
plupAug 30, 2008
Allah is serious business, bitch.
Closed AccountAug 30, 2008
It doesn't matter much. Our FBI, Homeland Security, and their International counterparts have kept us safe from terrorist crimes since the 911 wake-up call and they will continue to do so. I know some of our FBI work. It is very good and yes they do in fact use profiling regardless of what you may hear. Still they can't be lax in anyway. Atta and his friends were shockingly clever. Similar types might develop another clever plan and might be working in Belgium or likes right now like Atta and friends were doing in Germany. Worse still, it would be easier for them to get greater funding now from Saudis and other rich anti-Americans in the Mid-East.
Closed AccountAug 31, 2008
It doesn't matter what your chronological age is....you reasoning abilities are those of an illiterate and poorly traveled juvenile with no common sense or critical reasoning abilities. So tell me why the "government" would want to poison its own people? Do you think the government is run by robots? Do you think the decision makers in this society are so cynical and so evil that they would kill innocent civilians to stay in power at great risk of being caught and being held accountable in a court of law with the death penalty a realistic punishment? Do you think that every citizen of this country, especially those in decision making levels of the government have not learned the lessons of WW1 - WW2? It is ONLY TRUTHERS who are stupid enough to believe that there are rogue elements in government who go unabated in their evil plans and conspiracies. You cant even get a blow job in the white house and keep it a secret. Every conspiracy theory has been disproved through Science and Technology. That includes Tonkin Gulf , Kennedy's assassination, 9-11, and the Anthrax scare. If you get your education from the discovery channel than you are at a terrible intellectual disadvantage to people with educations and life experience to the point that you come out looking like an ignorant anti authoritarian idiot. There WAS no government conspiracy - this was ONE unbalanced scientist with access to anthrax and ambitions of becoming wealthy. The "government" (whatever that is in your simple mind) is NOT SUPER COMPETENT and in addition is mostly made of of people who are honest and have integrity and a sense of right, wrong, and an understanding of history and the laws that govern them. SOMEONE will always rat out a criminal.
stopthelieAug 31, 2008
I think it's funny that you attack my reasoning when it's clear that your capacity to "conclude" is entirely dependent on your own (terribly naïve) world view: "Government is good - Evil people in government don't exist anymore. Ridiculous.I notice that you keep ignoring the information I've given you that could help you overcome this mental deficit. Worse, having ignored it, you then babble on as if you know what you're talking about.For instance, you talk about "government having learned the lessons of WW1 and WW2," while ignoring the fact that both Operation Gladio and Operation Northwoods took place AFTER WW2. Have you looked up either? (Both have been extensively documented.) -Or maybe you'll just dismiss the National Security Archive as the home of Conspiracy Theorists who can't reason. Maybe you'll dismiss Dr. Daniel Ganser's excellent work (that earned him his PHD – “NATO's Secret Armies”) as a man who's research and reasoning skills are inferior to your own. I’m just about done wasting my time with you (“Pearls before swine” and all that) but I will, just for good measure, point out the biggest flaw in how your mind operates. Most of your arguments are known in LOGIC as “logical fallacies.” For instance, you posit that if Clinton was unable to keep his blowjob secret, that secrets involving people in government cannot be kept. Now, in order for me to disprove this premise (“falsify” your theory) I only need one instance that proves you’re wrong. (So, you’ve basically painted yourself into a corner.) Are you waiting for my ONE example? OK, how about the Manhattan Project. – look it up yourself. It was a little more involved than a blowjob. Also, you seem to forget ALL of the continually “declassified” documents that WERE “kept secret” until they became “declassified.” Another argument that comes from your types ( I’m not sure what pejorative I should use…since you have labeled me a “Truther,” and we appear to be opposites, does that make you a “Liar?”) Anyway, you always ask the question “why would somebody in government commit some criminal act.” I have never understood this question. They would do it for the same reason any criminal commits a criminal act: Because they’re a criminal, they expect to get something they want, and they expect to get away with it. The big difference between the “common criminal” and a “government criminal” is that a common criminal cannot obstruct investigations from inside the system. They cannot seal documents, confiscate video tapes or appoint their own investigators. They cannot subpoena witnesses, find out what the witnesses know, and then use the information they've obtained to more effectively whitewash their crime. Why would men in government participate in the Tuskegee Experiment? (Look it up – it’s part of your homework.) If you’re looking for an answer that survives some kind of “moral” test you’re not going to find an acceptable “why.” (Anymore than you’ll find one that explains why a man would grab a child, rape the child, cut the child’s head off, and bury the body in a ditch. –“Why” somebody would do something, in terms that we would understand, is less important than IF they have done it.) If there is evidence that something has been done, that evidence trumps preconceived notions about what a person (acting alone or within government) is capable of. It seems to me that you're not disputing the Anthrax came from a US government source, you're not disputing that it was made to look like it was sent from "Muslim Terrorists," you're not disputing that the attacks were used to hype fear and justify the wars that followed, and you're not disputing that the man who (supposedly) committed the crime was a government employee. What you're saying is that it's impossible that it was anything more than a "lone nut." I say, given all I've know about how those in charge of “geopolitical strategy” operate, that your assertion is terribly naive. (Or, to use your own words: "you reasoning abilities are those of an illiterate and poorly traveled juvenile with no common sense or critical reasoning abilities.")
Closed AccountSep 3, 2008
Ya - that's what I thought stopthelie - nothing else intelligent to say, no facts to put forth to support your evidence - no critical thinking - no common sense and no evidence. I rest my case!