medicalnewstoday.com— Influenza vaccination programs, which cost nations millions of dollars every year, could be a waste of time and money...
Oct 29, 2006View in Crawl 4
@bobothn"unless you are 60 years old or older"OR work in a hospital around a bunch of sick people. I'd rather feel a little crappy for a day due to a flu shot than feel like run-over dog s**t for a week because I decided that I'd forgo it in preference for the "natural way." There's a reason healthcare workers usually get them for free.Oh, plus all the things toconnor said.
I know what FUD stands for, I'm a designer and I work with marketing people all the time. But your loose application of the term could be used in just about any debate where one side does not agree with the other. It's intellectually dishonest to label someone as spreading FUD just because they do not agree with you. That kind of thinking advocates people accepting blind obedience towards anything calling itself authority, which I cannot stand.
The main problem is not in single dose vaccines. The problem arises (or arose, around 1993) when they mixed multiple vaccines into one shot or combined multiple vaccines at the same appointment for a child whose brain was in the early stages of development.This is probably the cause for the huge spike in cases of autism in recent years, and while the CDC, FDA, etc. are not admitting any wrongdoing, the vaccination schedule has been relaxed and vaccine makers are now making vaccines that lack thimerosal.<a class="user" href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/7395411/deadly_immunity/">http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/7395411/deadly_immunity/</a>
I beg your pardon, but they are not. It is a fact that most flu shots contain mercury and other additives used as a preservative agent. Anyone who claims otherwise is being willfully ignorant. There is a debate as to whether or not they exists in quantities large enough to pose a health risk, but there is no debate about their usage in the vaccine supply. Educate yourself before you presume someone is incorrect.
Like he said ^ you are comparing Bacterial (usually) infection of the lungs with a Viral infection (of the whole body ~ GI, lungs, muscles, etc)You got pneumonia b/c you didn't get the pnemococcal vaccine, siily :)
The influenze vaccine program is not pointless, it generates huge revenue for Chiron and other big pharmas. Those big pharmas employ people, pay taxes, and generally contribute to the economy. Just like how the wild goose chase or an AIDS/HIV cure has ensured decades of continuous funding for scientists all over the world.
xenocratesOct 30, 2006
@bobothn"unless you are 60 years old or older"OR work in a hospital around a bunch of sick people. I'd rather feel a little crappy for a day due to a flu shot than feel like run-over dog s**t for a week because I decided that I'd forgo it in preference for the "natural way." There's a reason healthcare workers usually get them for free.Oh, plus all the things toconnor said.
memewarriorOct 30, 2006
I know what FUD stands for, I'm a designer and I work with marketing people all the time. But your loose application of the term could be used in just about any debate where one side does not agree with the other. It's intellectually dishonest to label someone as spreading FUD just because they do not agree with you. That kind of thinking advocates people accepting blind obedience towards anything calling itself authority, which I cannot stand.
lintmonkeyOct 30, 2006
The main problem is not in single dose vaccines. The problem arises (or arose, around 1993) when they mixed multiple vaccines into one shot or combined multiple vaccines at the same appointment for a child whose brain was in the early stages of development.This is probably the cause for the huge spike in cases of autism in recent years, and while the CDC, FDA, etc. are not admitting any wrongdoing, the vaccination schedule has been relaxed and vaccine makers are now making vaccines that lack thimerosal.<a class="user" href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/7395411/deadly_immunity/">http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/7395411/deadly_immunity/</a>
Closed AccountOct 30, 2006
It's not that you don't agree, it's that your facts specifically regarding flu vaccines are incorrect.
memewarriorOct 30, 2006
I beg your pardon, but they are not. It is a fact that most flu shots contain mercury and other additives used as a preservative agent. Anyone who claims otherwise is being willfully ignorant. There is a debate as to whether or not they exists in quantities large enough to pose a health risk, but there is no debate about their usage in the vaccine supply. Educate yourself before you presume someone is incorrect.
lunasunshineOct 30, 2006
Like he said ^ you are comparing Bacterial (usually) infection of the lungs with a Viral infection (of the whole body ~ GI, lungs, muscles, etc)You got pneumonia b/c you didn't get the pnemococcal vaccine, siily :)
lesnadykOct 31, 2006
The influenze vaccine program is not pointless, it generates huge revenue for Chiron and other big pharmas. Those big pharmas employ people, pay taxes, and generally contribute to the economy. Just like how the wild goose chase or an AIDS/HIV cure has ensured decades of continuous funding for scientists all over the world.