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nick217Jul 28, 2010
sweet. the cult of this movie keeps building. this should be on college dorm room walls.
anomaly100Jul 28, 2010
I can't wait to see this movie.
wozupJul 28, 2010
Seriously, it really isn't that great. I have no clue why digg loves it so much. It was just OK, Toy Story 3 easily tops it.
clonedJul 28, 2010
Ignore wozup, even though Toy Story 3 was great. I'm positive this will be nominated for Best Picture, and I have a feeling it will win, it deserves it.
Closed AccountJul 28, 2010
Then go go go go!
pharmokanJul 28, 2010
magnets, how do they work?
halphpriceJul 28, 2010
depends on who's dream it is.
wilc3685Jul 28, 2010
This was posted from one of the comments on the page. I prefer it to explain better than this infographic.
http://blastr.com/2010/07/infographic-untangles-inc.php
jayskullsJul 28, 2010
I hope they come up with an infographic for "Furry Vengeance" next.
blacklilyninjaJul 28, 2010
best inception of inception
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrYPJ4Yc31g
Closed AccountJul 28, 2010
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roiperezJul 28, 2010
It took me a second to figure the infograph out. Quite cool the way it's done with the limbo..
elie195Jul 28, 2010
Here's the REAL explanation of Inception:
http://revolvingdoorproject.net/2010/07/23/inception-what-happened-at-the-end/
volaitle86Jul 28, 2010
i hadn't see this one yet. I never even noticed the ring. Thanks for posting this.
blumerJul 28, 2010
That's enough for me.
igorunchainedJul 28, 2010
Yeah...hate to admit it, but I never noticed the ring either.
Very interesting take!
drunkensaviorJul 28, 2010
Guess it's time to see this movie a 4th time!
yunusJul 28, 2010
Seems like a good enough reason for me. Wasn't there a point where Cobb actually tried to hand the spinning top to the Architect? I don't remember the exact scene but I do remember thinking he's not supposed to do that. It would make perfect sense if he kept a decoy totem.
Although this all assumes that the whole movie is not Cobb in limbo.
stinkyliciousJul 28, 2010
I read this before seeing the film again and have to disagree. He is correct about the wedding ring, but they never clearly showed his hand at the end, and this author makes the point they the film likes to show whether or not he had a wedding ring.
Also, there are two sets of child actors because the voices on the phone are clearly older than the age of his children every time they're shown. This phone conversation happens before they meet Saito in the helicopter. However, while Saito is sitting in the helicopter, he uses the phrase "take a leap of faith" which is the same phrasing that Mal uses before she kills herself. This is supposed to be reality. It's obviously not a coincidence because Nolan doesn't swing that way. Maybe the wedding ring is just a herring instead. Although maybe "take a leap of faith" is a herring
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
f**k, I am so unobservant. I wish I would look for more details in movies.
smacksawJul 29, 2010
I'd like someone to do the math with an estimation of Saito's age vs the time in flight from when Cobb goes to sleep and wakes up.
trevorbradleyAug 7, 2010
That's assuming he hadn't actually "let his wife go" and was finally dreaming himself without a ring.
apfleginJul 28, 2010
Only douches say Nuff said
zmail21Jul 28, 2010
Or FTW!
zenkittenJul 28, 2010
Why am I getting buried? Look at the graphic.
Cobb's dream is on the right above Eames' dream, and limbo is the entire middle part of the infographic. I'm not saying it's right (I think this infographic is incorrect), just that the graphic has the two separated.
aserer511Jul 28, 2010
sup dawg, we heard you like to kick, so we put a kick in your kick....
volaitle86Jul 28, 2010
you the one that has been rollin frosty with nines
ronintetsuroJul 28, 2010
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volaitle86Jul 28, 2010
style and no substance, confusing and s**tTY infograph
mattack01Jul 28, 2010
*top spinning*
asus3000Jul 28, 2010
I personally thought the movie was very mediocre. The contrast to the rest of the garbage produced by Hollywood recently makes it look genius.
dtpollittJul 28, 2010
can we get a bigger image?
nickpl34Jul 28, 2010
yo dawg I heard you like dreams..
Closed AccountJul 28, 2010
http://cheezcomixed.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/inceptionp1.jpg
spookyttwsJul 28, 2010
"And if you need a little more expert guidance, you can always check out how Lost's creator, J.J. Abrams, explained the ending."
No, that is a tweet from Damon Lindelof . You can tell because it says Damon Lindelof above it.
Closed AccountJul 28, 2010
Inception isnt really that confusing, there are just things going on in parallel for a while so you have to pay attention to where everyone is.
Incredible film. s**tty infographic
raphexionJul 28, 2010
I watched the movie two times and I must say that I am a bit more confused after the second time. However this is my idea:
When Mal and Saito dies they fall into limbo which is just another dream, except it is a very confusing dream and you will not seek to wake up but instead wander forever. (It seems Saito is waiting for a normal death by aging which never happens when Codd arrives to him, he literally need someone to tell him that he is in a dream and he "needs to wake up" - that is shoot himself).
I think the way Codd and Ariadne enter the dream is "simply" by connecting themselves to Mal's and Saito's dream. The reason that Mal and Saito is in the same dream is either A) the machine connects them together (that is, when Codd and Ariadne hooks up to the machine, they hook up Mal and Saito aswell and all for are now dream-sharing) or B) limbo is a shared dream because it is the "super dream" - parent of all dreams. (like object-oriented programming).
I believe that the whole movie is a dream, Codd's dream and that Mal is right all along. They both need to kick (die) to move up to reality. The reason I believe this is because of Codd's father who said: "wake up Codd, come back to reality". And Mal who mentions that it is pretty absurd for Codd to run around being chased by multinational corperations.
PS. Could someone please explain why blowing up the elevator actually works. Right now I think it is a "bug" - to me it is a bit like jumping in a free falling elevator, you will still crash. I mean, if Authors dream world is without gravity, it is without gravity and the elevator will not fall even if you blow the cables. The only idea I have now is because when the van hits the water there is all-the-sudden gravity in Authors dream and he can blow up the elevator. The reason he moves everyone to the elevator is because we do not want them to float in the air (in the hotel room - the original idea is to blow the floor in the hotel room, right?).
PS 2. Did anyone else by me get super excited when they did the kick-backs. For me it was very close to recursive programming when you hit the end-condiction. When you pop the stack backwards :) I felt really cool I think.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
333caleJul 29, 2010
Btw it's Cobb... he's not a fish.
First you need to understand: Mal is not alive anymore... she killed herself many moons ago. The character we see as Mal is always a memory, or just Cobb's projection. Thus, the Mal in Limbo is not real - just a shadow in Cobb's subconscious that he cannot expel. For years he has not been able to expel Mal from his dreaming, which is why images of Mal and his children appear everywhere in Cobb's subconscious.
In fact, secretly, we know Cobb doesn't really want to expel Mal from his subconscious - because he keeps a bank of his memories involving her, which Ariadne finds out about. He only finally expels Mal for good once he returns to Limbo, because he knows he is being weak and needs to move on, and becuase she is causing too many problems (ie, killing Fisher in the hospital).
Next, there are two ways of entering Limbo: by dieing under the sedative, or by dreaming too deep. Cobb and Mal went to Limbo in the distant past by dreaming too deep. Fisher and Saito got there by dieing under the sedative. And Cobb and Ariadne got there by dreaming too deep from the 3rd level. (The sedative allowed one more level of dreaming to become possible - originally 2 dreams was the limit, then limbo. With the sedative, 3 dreams is the limit, then limbo). Limbo as you say, could be described as the "super dream".
Whether you think the whole thing is a dream is up to your interpreation. I disagree, and think you are just picking up on implications that weren't really there. At the very end, we see Cobb's totem wobble - giving us the impression that Cobb is in fact in reality (Nolan only fades to black before we see the totem topple to, essentially, confuse us. Leave us on a cliff hanger - with "mystery", as it were.)
PS 1) Blowing up the elevator was not to cut the cables - Arthur only placed the bombs on one side of the elevator, so the force of the explosions blew the elevator down the shaft (much like the take off of a rocket).This gave the impression of falling, I think.
PS 2) No, that was only you.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
You're close, but the level where Mal has hogtied Fischer is not limbo. It was established that in limbo you completely lose all concept of yourself, and that the only way to leave is to kill yourself. This is the whole reason behind why Mal was so f**ked up, and killed herself in the real world (whether or not that actually was the real world is a different issue).
That is Cobb's dream. Juno girl and Fischer kick out of it by jumping off the building. The only way for Cobb to enter limbo is to die, so he confronts Mal to the point where she stabs him. Dead, he washes up on the beaches of limbo with no idea who he is.
Saito and Cobb work out who they are together, and kill themselves to kick back out.
hivoltage815Jul 29, 2010
I already replied to why you are wrong above godzilla and you are just showing more of your inability to grasp it here. Mal wasn't "f**ked up" because of limbo. She was confused because of the inception that Cobb performed on her by implanting the simple idea of questioning her reality. You keep ignoring what the movie actually says with unsubstantiated statements.
They also never said you can only get to limbo from dying, in fact they said the complete opposite.
@333
I still like the idea that Cobb was dreaming the whole time. Having rewatched the movie, Nolan did an excellent job of leaving ambiguous clues the entire movie so you will never know. That is the fun in it. You can't definitively say one way or another.
raphexionJul 29, 2010
Thanks for the elevator. That makes sence that the pressure from the bomb pushes the elevator and that creates the movements (and force). I didn't think about that.
I was totally confussed about the last dream and limbo. Thanks. Now I remember, Saito is not even in the last dream (before Cobb goes to limbo). Damn, I have missed a lot, need to see it again. (Maybe I shouldn't have been "gutsy" and watched the second time in French,,)
Sorry for not being clear, of course that Mal is dead and it is Cobb's projection but I think her "ideas" can still be reflected through Cobb's subconcious. It seems to me that "Mal" is on to something, atleast it triggers the imagination. What if Mal and Cobb already went down multiple dreams and Cobb has forgoten about one level. Then again, maybe Cobb's dad and Mal (both projections) give that impression because Cobb still feel guilty that Mal killed herself. The two projections remind Cobb that about the "idea" (inception of Cobb) that there might be one more step up to reality but there are actually not.
I must stay that both Mal and Cobb's dad plays insainly well in this movie.
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flashtoneJul 29, 2010
weiner
raphexionJul 28, 2010
First off I loved the movie and I think Nolan is a genious. That said, I watched the movie two times and I must say that I am still confused after the second time. However this is my idea:
When Mal and Saito dies they fall into limbo which is just another dream, except it is a very confusing dream and you will not seek to wake up but instead wander forever. (It seems Saito is waiting for a normal death by aging (which never happens - he seems very old) when Codd arrives to him, he literally need someone to tell him that he is in a dream and he "needs to wake up" - that is to shoot himself).
I think the way Codd and Ariadne enter the dream is "simply" by connecting themselves to Mal's and Saito's dream. The reason that Mal and Saito is in the same dream is either A) the machine connects them together (that is, when Codd and Ariadne hooks up to the machine, they hook up Mal and Saito aswell and all for are now dream-sharing) or B) limbo is a shared dream because it is the "super dream" - parent of all dreams.
I believe that the whole movie is a dream, Codd's dream and that Mal is right all along. They both needed a kick (die) to move up to reality and Mal was the brave one. The reason I believe this is because of Codd's father who I think acts very suspicious in the whole movie. Especially when he said: "wake up Codd, come back to reality". In addition, Mal who mentions that it is pretty absurd for Codd to run around being chased by multinational corperations. I believe that it is Codd that is tricking himself. He uses the "spinning thing" to convince himself that he is in reality. No matter if the "spinning thing" stands or falls he is in the dream.
PS. Could someone please explain why blowing up the elevator actually works. Right now I think it is a "bug" - to me it is a bit like the old famous "thought mistake" to think that you can save yourself by jumping just before a feelfalling elevator hits the ground. Even if you jump you will fall because you are pulled by gravity. I mean, if Author's dream world is without gravity, it is without gravity and the elevator will not fall even if he blows the cables. The only idea I have now is that because when the van hits the water there is all-the-sudden gravity in Author's dream and he can blow up the cables to the elevator. And the reason he moves everyone to the elevator is because we do not want them to float in the air (in the hotel room - the original idea is to blow the floor in the hotel room and get the kick from the falling floor, right?).
PS 2. Did anyone else by me get super excited when they did the kick-backs. For me it was very close to recursive programming. When you hit the end-condiction - you start popping off the stack one-by-one backwards :) amazing feeling.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
raphexionJul 28, 2010
First off I loved the movie and I think Nolan is a genious. That said, I watched the movie two times and I must say that I am still confused after the second time. However this is my idea:
When Mal and Saito dies they fall into limbo which is just another dream, except it is a very confusing dream and you will not seek to wake up but instead wander forever. (It seems Saito is waiting for a normal death by aging (which never happens - he seems very old) when Codd arrives to him, he literally need someone to tell him that he is in a dream and he "needs to wake up" - that is to shoot himself).
I think the way Codd and Ariadne enter the dream is "simply" by connecting themselves to Mal's and Saito's dream. The reason that Mal and Saito is in the same dream is either A) the machine connects them together (that is, when Codd and Ariadne hooks up to the machine, they hook up Mal and Saito aswell and all four are now dream-sharing) or B) limbo is a shared dream because it is the "super dream" - parent of all dreams.
I believe that the whole movie is a dream - Codd's dream - and that Mal is right all along: they both needed a kick (die) to move up to reality. However, it is only Mal who realize it and Mal was the brave one. The reason I believe this is because of Codd's father who I think acts very suspicious the whole movie. Especially when he said: "wake up Codd, come back to reality" but also in the end. In addition, Mal mentions that it is pretty absurd for Codd to run around being chased by multinational corperations. I believe that it is Codd that is tricking himself. He uses the "spinning thing" to convince himself that he is in reality. No matter if the "spinning thing" stands or falls he is in the dream. That is my "stand" right now.
PS. Could someone please explain why blowing up the elevator actually works. Right now I think it is a "bug" - to me it is a bit like the old famous "thought mistake" to think that you can save yourself by jumping just before a feelfalling elevator hits the ground. Even if you jump you will fall because you are pulled by gravity. I mean, if Author's dream world is without gravity, it is without gravity and the elevator will not fall even if he blows the cables. The only idea I have now is that because when the van hits the water there is all-the-sudden gravity in Author's dream and he can blow up the cables to the elevator. And the reason he moves everyone to the elevator is because we do not want them to float in the air (in the hotel room - the original idea is to blow the floor in the hotel room and get the kick from the falling floor, right?).
PS 2. Did anyone else by me get super excited when they did the kick-backs. For me it was very close to recursive programming. When you hit the end-condiction - you start popping off the stack one-by-one backwards :) amazing feeling.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
WCsharpehAug 12, 2010
He doesn't blow the cables, he wrecks the breaks and the explosion propels the elevator to the ground (kick)
yourbrokenovenJul 28, 2010
Yeah, uh, wasn't Cobb the girl's name?
boottoJul 28, 2010
Favorite scene in Inception- SPOILER- when he's taking that really long piss, like an endless gallon of urine, and wakes up suddenly and thinks he's peed the bed, but is relieved when he realizes he hasn't, but still has to wiz... good stuff.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
mrpassionJul 28, 2010
For all those who didnt get it. Here it is in simple English.
1) You have to watch it in cinema. Not the illegally downloaded cam version.
2) Now you are in cinema. Let the film confuse you. Surrender yourself. Dont try to understand while its still on
3) After the film finishes and the credits end, you will feel AWAKE. Do not leave the theatre.
4) After everyone is gone and credits disappear. The film will start again. This time with an alternate ending.
5) Now you get it. You must kill yourself to live yur real life! You are not real. Your life isnt real. Digg isnt real. Kill yourself! Kill yourself!! Kill!!! Only after you die , will you get to meet the real you.
bunghole59Jul 28, 2010
how inception should have really ended: http://jojeda.posterous.com/lint-animated-gif-how-lost-should-have-ended
iph0neJul 28, 2010
I was going to go see this film, i don't think i'll bother now.
prism123Jul 28, 2010
there were three things I didn't get in the movie
what determines who has projections and who doesn't, it seemed to change arbitrarily throughout the movie depending on what was most convenient for the plot.
secondly what determines if a kick works or doesn't, does the person have to choose for the kick to work for it to work? If not then why didn't the van falling off the bridge move Arthur up one level to the van, I had assumed the others didn't wake up since they were asleep in the hotel and they didn't have a kick on the mountain, but that doesn't cover Arthur who was awake in the hotel? Or did that kick not work at all since it wasn't strong enough or something.
When cobb rescued fisher jr from limbo he wasn't already old IIRC and didn't take that long to do from when he entered, why did it take him so after that to rescue seito, did he just get distracted and forget it was a dream as soon as adriane left?
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
1) The projections are from the subject of the dream. There is someone dreaming (which is a different person each level, as described in the infographic), and there is someone who is unknowingly brought into the dream. The target then doesn't know this isn't their own dream, and populates the dream world with their subconscious.
If the target starts to suspect something is wrong, their subconscious will start to fight the intruders (which takes the form of projections).
So, in the very beginning, when Saito has hired Cobb to steal his secrets as a test, the angry mob that busts through the door of the apartment is Saito's subconscious (he is the target).
At the end, it is Fischer's subconscious who fights back (and his subconscious has been "militarized").
2) You kick up a level if, in the dream you are in, you feel the sensation of falling - it has to be in the dream you are in. So for the people who were asleep in the hotel, their kick had to come from the tower that was exploding (where they were all awake). Once that happened, and they all came to in the hotel, then the next kick was in the elevator (arthur included).
3) cobb rescued fischer in cobbs dream - it wasnt limbo. saito was already so old when fischer entered limbo because he had died a lot earlier than cobb, and time in limbo is super elongated.
prism123Jul 29, 2010
1 doesn't work because when cobb was training adriane he knew he was dreaming obviously but still had projection
3 it was clearly limbo which cobb rescued fisher from, since a they entered on the beach, b they went on for like 10 minutes talking about what mal and cobb had done for the lifetime they spent in limbo after they got lost there, and c fisher died under sedation and hence went to limbo
akinneeJul 28, 2010
Not always... did you look at the link?
jfallon126Jul 28, 2010
This infograph is WAY more confusing than the movie.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
Spoilers... Am I the only one bugged by the fact that when they were lying down on the train tracks they were supposed to be like 80 and wrinky? Or am I missing something?
WCsharpehAug 12, 2010
Did you get to the end of the movie?
naughtsleepingJul 29, 2010
All of the discussion and debate is based on various interpretations of the movie starting from the same premise: That "Level 1", or the "airplane level", is reality. You can debate many of the nuances starting with this premise, but some major themes stay the same, such as Mal being crazy after she is originally brought back to "Level 1" when Cobb convinces her to join him in suicide by train to escape Limbo, ultimately resulting in her "real" hotel suicide in "Level 1".
I would like someone to think through and post interpretations based on the following alternate premise:
- "Level 1" is actually limbo. Mal is actually completely correct when she is begging Cobb to join him in the leap from the hotel balcony, and the movie is actually portraying the tragic failure of Cobb to realize this too. Because he fails to follow Mal out of limbo, he is stuck spinning around in various self-delusions.
I believe many details will fit, including the surreal imagery of the mirrored hotel balcony from which Mal leaps, the dreamlike nature of Cobb's super-agent, corporate raider "reality", and of course the ambiguous ending (which would now be interpreted as a tragic knowing wink to the audience). I haven't thought it all through, and I look forward to watching the movie again, this time with this starting premise in mind.
hivoltage815Jul 29, 2010
I did rewatch it with such a premise in mind, and Nolan did a brilliant job of dropping hints while being completely ambiguous. My favorite hint was "who would want to be in a dream that long? it depends on how good the dream is." Point is, we will never know. There is no answer.
The real theme here is the same one in Memento. Cobb chose to accept whatever reality he wanted. That is why he walked away from the top before he could watch it stop.
kawaiiroboJul 29, 2010
If you need an infographic to understand Inception, then I'm pretty sure you're not smart enough to understand an infographic in the first place,
mrj777Jul 29, 2010
I'm sick of people telling me their theory for Inception. The movie was pretty straightforward and had a great ending, I think it means what I think it means... I don't care about other peoples theories.
And seriously, like every persons "unique theory110101010!!" is the same damned theory.
This infograph is actually pretty accurate, but totally unneeded and will just stir more posts of "oh here's what I think it meant!"
vitriolandangstJul 12, 2011
No, a lot of people NEED this info-graphic.
Most of the population are just smart chimps hoping that nobody else is going to catch on that life scares and confuses them.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2010
blastr.com sucks. If you don't think so read their review of Inception...it's a f**king joke.
http://blastr.com/2010/07/inception-wants-to-be-oce.php
alienmushroomJul 29, 2010
Who the f**k dugg this piece of stinky turd to the homepage?
raphexionJul 29, 2010
Thanks for the elevator. That makes sence that the pressure from the bomb pushes the elevator and that creates the movements (and force). I didn't think about that.
I was totally confussed about the last dream and limbo. Thanks. Now I remember, Saito is not even in the last dream (before Cobb goes to limbo). Damn, I have missed a lot, need to see it again. (Maybe I shouldn't have been "gutsy" and watched the second time in French,,)
I must say that the actors of both Mal and Cobb's dad play insainly well in this movie.
Need to see it again. I have missed tons.
fmvorenkampJul 29, 2010
Aright, it's been out for a week. It was good, but we can stop acting like it reinvented cinema now.
satanaelAug 2, 2010
I think the whole point of the movie Inception was "Inception" itself.
The same way that Cobb used the spinning top to perform Inception on Mal, Nolan uses the spinning top at the end to perform Inception on his audience. Now we're all caught in a clusterf**k, doubting each other's interpretations on what is and is not reality in the film.
For this, I applaud Nolan.
berky93Aug 3, 2010
am I the only one who was not at all confused or lost during this movie? it was pretty straightforward. Everyone seems to be overanalyzing this and trying to make it more than it was. The fact is this movie was incredible not just for its visuals or its interesting storyline, but its ability to take a simple concept, make it extremely complicated without making it seem ridiculous, and making the audience really think deep about the plot even though in reality everything was told to you. Plus creating your own set oh physics without making them seem unrealistic is pretty cool
survivordeanAug 16, 2010
One of the most UNIQUE Movies i've seen in years!
vitriolandangstJul 12, 2011
I see a lot of debate about the "fourth kick" -- the destruction of the Ice Fortress.
Many are trying to add up all the "kicks" required --by my count; it would be 3 suicides and one "feeling of falling" at the top after the drug wears off.
I think the "debate" is easily solved by just noticing that they were "scamming" the client. He had to get the data out of his "own head safe" -- so of course, they needed some urgency created by attackers so he didn't have time to think about it.
Also, they had to hurry things along to make the other three "kicks."
>> I played with the idea that it was all just a dream in a dream but that doesn't make sense; they wouldn't NEED any rules at all if it were all a dream. And the Kids voices on the phone would NOT be older if he was dreaming of them being younger.
Plus, a dream inside of a dream and then you wake up and it was all a Dream? That's just as annoying as Evil Twins and Clowns that turn out to be demonic Spiders.