frivolousmotion.blogspot.com— Touched a Zune at Target, and managed to convince customers not to buy one, to the chagrin of the salespeople. Whipped out the new iPod Shuffle and watched as their kids went crazy over it!
Dec 6, 2006View in Crawl 4
Please... do you guys honestly have nothing better to do with your life than perform your 'duty' of going around sticking your nose in other people's business. Does it make you feel cool or something? I don't care what side you're on, if you try and "convert" me to your way of thinking, you're as bad as the evangelicals. Keep your beliefs and biases to yourself, let people make up their own mind. Also, you know damn well the shuffle is a completely different product segment with a completely different feature set, what if they were looking for video capability and larger storage? In cases like this, you're worse than the average best buy employee.
Wow... some anti-MS, pro-Apple zealot proselytizes his beliefs onto unsuspecting consumers and then writes a blog about it. That's prime Digg content right there. /sarcGranted, I wouldn't touch a Zune (or an iPod) with a fifty foot pole (because of the DRM.. and no, the iPod DRM isn't "gooder").... but if some nutcase came up to me and started preaching the wonders of the almighty iPod and cursing the "evil" Zune, I'd punch him in the throat. :oPI once thought that religious zealots were the most annoying kind of zealots... that is, until I met techie zealots... there's nothing worse than someone who thinks that a chunk of plastic and circuit boards is worth devoting their life to.
I can't believe there are actually people defending the Zune. Have you actually used it?From my experience the Zune has a lot of work to do on the software end before it can be a competitor with the Apple, Creative, and other mp3 player companies. So I see it as anyones duty to dissuade any potential buyers from purchasing the Zune. Unless you want to see them suffer.
Not to mention said "girlfriend" is probably just a fabrication anyways. I find it hard to believe crazed fanatic personalities can successfully have relationships.. that is unless she's crazy herself, then good luck with that.
Evoguy, it's not about converting. At least for me it's not. I can't remember how many times I've been in Future Shop(a Best Buy Canadian division retailer) and watched some hopeless consumer get bulls**tted by some clerk who hasn't got a clue(or maybe just plain devious). I remember one clerk feeding a poor guy some BS about the iPod and how needs to buy the extended coverage because of this or that, but when he discussed some other mp3 player, no other extra was offered. I smelled a rat. After the the clerk left I told the guy that he should know that the clerk was trying to sell him the extra coverage(it was through Future Shop, not Apple Care) because their margin on the iPod is slim so they make it up on this bogus extended care but on the other mp3, as a chain, they negotiate a better wholesale price and therefore get a bigger margin. It had nothing to do with any iPod inferiority. I know sales is sales. I worked retail 7 years and I got more return customers because I was honest with them and not lying to them. I'd even tell them not to but something if it didn't meet their needs. Guess who they would come and see when the time came that it met their needs? By the way the guy bought the other mp3 player but was glad I helped him out.
Buy a Zune, use it for two weeks, and then bash it all you want. I know I'm making an assumption here, but it appears as if you are operating on second hand knowledge. My experience with the Zune has been anything but what has been popularly reported. But then again, that's just me.
Lets be serious here. It's not about Apple or Microsoft. It's about features, specs, and functionality. The Zune is currently the laughing stock of the tech world. If you still like it that go for it, as only you need to be happy with it. But a buyer should know the facts. Let's see Zune... 1. None of your previous plays for sure music will work, and you have to buy it all over again (wow if they bail out on a system like this why should we think they won't do it again with all out zune music) 2. Built in wifi (lol) that can only be used to transfer a song to another zune owner (good luck finding one) and even if you do they can play it THREE TIMES!3. The zune though it has a bigger screen is also a far bigger size, and has less battery life.4. You can't use actual money to but music from the zune store, you have to buy "ZUNE POINTS" and then use those to buy music.5. Zune will not work if someone owns a mac (ipod works on both)6. No podcasts in the Zune store (wow that's forward thinking)These are just the things I can think of off hand. Let me tell you if I was an unknowing shopper I would be thrilled to have someone point out all the huge shortcomings in this device so I did not get stuck with it. Shoppers trust an experienced user more than a salesperson folks. If after they know the facts somebody still wants a zune, than let them spend their cash. But I don't fault anyone for trying to save them from the ZUNE fate. Also if Microsoft gets their act together and makes this thing worthwhile, then great. Competition is good, but the zune can hardly be called competition for the ipod.
evoguyDec 7, 2006
Please... do you guys honestly have nothing better to do with your life than perform your 'duty' of going around sticking your nose in other people's business. Does it make you feel cool or something? I don't care what side you're on, if you try and "convert" me to your way of thinking, you're as bad as the evangelicals. Keep your beliefs and biases to yourself, let people make up their own mind. Also, you know damn well the shuffle is a completely different product segment with a completely different feature set, what if they were looking for video capability and larger storage? In cases like this, you're worse than the average best buy employee.
watyfDec 8, 2006
Wow... some anti-MS, pro-Apple zealot proselytizes his beliefs onto unsuspecting consumers and then writes a blog about it. That's prime Digg content right there. /sarcGranted, I wouldn't touch a Zune (or an iPod) with a fifty foot pole (because of the DRM.. and no, the iPod DRM isn't "gooder").... but if some nutcase came up to me and started preaching the wonders of the almighty iPod and cursing the "evil" Zune, I'd punch him in the throat. :oPI once thought that religious zealots were the most annoying kind of zealots... that is, until I met techie zealots... there's nothing worse than someone who thinks that a chunk of plastic and circuit boards is worth devoting their life to.
tcnormanDec 8, 2006
I can't believe there are actually people defending the Zune. Have you actually used it?From my experience the Zune has a lot of work to do on the software end before it can be a competitor with the Apple, Creative, and other mp3 player companies. So I see it as anyones duty to dissuade any potential buyers from purchasing the Zune. Unless you want to see them suffer.
psychopnutDec 8, 2006
What dumb ass shops at Target for CD-R's or anything electronic?Well, except for the occasional game system, if no one else has it.
rheaumeDec 8, 2006
Somebody actually went crazy over this piece of s**t:<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ipod-shuffle-usb-connector.jpg">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ipod-shuffle-usb-connector.jpg</a>Instead of this:<a class="user" href="http://www.king5.com/business/stories/M_IMAGE.10da148c523.93.88.fa.d0.c57843c.jpg">http://www.king5.com/business/stories/M_IMAGE.10da148c523.93.88.fa.d0.c57843c.jpg</a>Riiiiight I believe you
evoguyDec 8, 2006
Not to mention said "girlfriend" is probably just a fabrication anyways. I find it hard to believe crazed fanatic personalities can successfully have relationships.. that is unless she's crazy herself, then good luck with that.
mikeytwitDec 8, 2006
Evoguy, it's not about converting. At least for me it's not. I can't remember how many times I've been in Future Shop(a Best Buy Canadian division retailer) and watched some hopeless consumer get bulls**tted by some clerk who hasn't got a clue(or maybe just plain devious). I remember one clerk feeding a poor guy some BS about the iPod and how needs to buy the extended coverage because of this or that, but when he discussed some other mp3 player, no other extra was offered. I smelled a rat. After the the clerk left I told the guy that he should know that the clerk was trying to sell him the extra coverage(it was through Future Shop, not Apple Care) because their margin on the iPod is slim so they make it up on this bogus extended care but on the other mp3, as a chain, they negotiate a better wholesale price and therefore get a bigger margin. It had nothing to do with any iPod inferiority. I know sales is sales. I worked retail 7 years and I got more return customers because I was honest with them and not lying to them. I'd even tell them not to but something if it didn't meet their needs. Guess who they would come and see when the time came that it met their needs? By the way the guy bought the other mp3 player but was glad I helped him out.
thexenoDec 9, 2006
Buy a Zune, use it for two weeks, and then bash it all you want. I know I'm making an assumption here, but it appears as if you are operating on second hand knowledge. My experience with the Zune has been anything but what has been popularly reported. But then again, that's just me.
ventrilqstmanDec 9, 2006
Lets be serious here. It's not about Apple or Microsoft. It's about features, specs, and functionality. The Zune is currently the laughing stock of the tech world. If you still like it that go for it, as only you need to be happy with it. But a buyer should know the facts. Let's see Zune... 1. None of your previous plays for sure music will work, and you have to buy it all over again (wow if they bail out on a system like this why should we think they won't do it again with all out zune music) 2. Built in wifi (lol) that can only be used to transfer a song to another zune owner (good luck finding one) and even if you do they can play it THREE TIMES!3. The zune though it has a bigger screen is also a far bigger size, and has less battery life.4. You can't use actual money to but music from the zune store, you have to buy "ZUNE POINTS" and then use those to buy music.5. Zune will not work if someone owns a mac (ipod works on both)6. No podcasts in the Zune store (wow that's forward thinking)These are just the things I can think of off hand. Let me tell you if I was an unknowing shopper I would be thrilled to have someone point out all the huge shortcomings in this device so I did not get stuck with it. Shoppers trust an experienced user more than a salesperson folks. If after they know the facts somebody still wants a zune, than let them spend their cash. But I don't fault anyone for trying to save them from the ZUNE fate. Also if Microsoft gets their act together and makes this thing worthwhile, then great. Competition is good, but the zune can hardly be called competition for the ipod.