LOL @ Stupid hatersEspecially the last comment. Damn. You guys are actually WORSE than fundamentalist christian types. Oh-Oh, did the big bad man make a website calling you on your bulls**t and lies?LETS COMPLAIN AND GET IT SHUT DOWN!!!!
mrfreeze...Yet again: EXTENSIONS HAVE GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH OPEN SOURCE.Sorry for yelling, but it doesn't look like I got through to you the first time.People are extending Firefox because it has an API for that. And API is just an interface to a program. It does not have to be open source. And open source has got nothing to do with "respent for users", geez. If you think open source is about respect, have you ever seen how badly Mozilla representative Asa Dotzler behaves? He flames critics and links to their e-mail address, encouraging Firefox fans to mailbomb them.
"mrfreeze...Yet again: EXTENSIONS HAVE GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH OPEN SOURCE.Sorry for yelling, but it doesn't look like I got through to you the first time.People are extending Firefox because it has an API for that. And API is just an interface to a program. It does not have to be open source. And open source has got nothing to do with "respent for users", geez. If you think open source is about respect, have you ever seen how badly Mozilla representative Asa Dotzler behaves? He flames critics and links to their e-mail address, encouraging Firefox fans to mailbomb them."you're missing the point: i (and many, many, many others) say to hell with opera AND ie because of their proprietary nature. while you are correct that extensions do not *directly* have to do with open source, why.... oh why do you think so many people have gotten behind the firefox project as opposed to opera?i have to admit that opera is "faster" and (now) free, why do you think they STILL can't get the numbers from users AND developers that FF has? it's a s**tty tradeoff to have a browser that is a little faster but closed and proprietary. no matter how many cool features the opera programmers decide to include in the browser, they can never match the fundamental appeal of an open source project.
This is where the fun begin, everything turns into a bare knuckle fistfight. It would be sweet if we could discuss browsers without throwing faeces on each other, and the applications.mrfreeze: Still, I would appreciate if you didn't write Opera off and put it in the same category as IE since they are a long way from each other. And claiming that "they never can match the fundamental appeal of an open-source project" is just thinking inside the box. Functionality and performance is still the most important things to the regular user. And as a developer, I can't really think about anything else that I want then a rendering engine that renders code the way it supposed to. You're talking about a small part of Internet users. It almost borders on lunix-zealotry. ;PI feel it's just a stupid move to shy away from something just because its not open-source. It's all good if you want to write your own extensions to Firefox and keep using it, myself, I have other priorities. I want a lightweight browser that's fast and renders code like it supposed to (no, Opera is not perfect, but at least they try :P). That is kind of important when you design & develop.Anyways, instead of whining over which browser is teh greatest we should focus our energy on standard compliance for _all_ browsers.
jasqwertyFeb 11, 2006
LOL @ Stupid hatersEspecially the last comment. Damn. You guys are actually WORSE than fundamentalist christian types. Oh-Oh, did the big bad man make a website calling you on your bulls**t and lies?LETS COMPLAIN AND GET IT SHUT DOWN!!!!
worbdFeb 12, 2006
mrfreeze...Yet again: EXTENSIONS HAVE GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH OPEN SOURCE.Sorry for yelling, but it doesn't look like I got through to you the first time.People are extending Firefox because it has an API for that. And API is just an interface to a program. It does not have to be open source. And open source has got nothing to do with "respent for users", geez. If you think open source is about respect, have you ever seen how badly Mozilla representative Asa Dotzler behaves? He flames critics and links to their e-mail address, encouraging Firefox fans to mailbomb them.
Closed AccountFeb 16, 2006
"mrfreeze...Yet again: EXTENSIONS HAVE GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH OPEN SOURCE.Sorry for yelling, but it doesn't look like I got through to you the first time.People are extending Firefox because it has an API for that. And API is just an interface to a program. It does not have to be open source. And open source has got nothing to do with "respent for users", geez. If you think open source is about respect, have you ever seen how badly Mozilla representative Asa Dotzler behaves? He flames critics and links to their e-mail address, encouraging Firefox fans to mailbomb them."you're missing the point: i (and many, many, many others) say to hell with opera AND ie because of their proprietary nature. while you are correct that extensions do not *directly* have to do with open source, why.... oh why do you think so many people have gotten behind the firefox project as opposed to opera?i have to admit that opera is "faster" and (now) free, why do you think they STILL can't get the numbers from users AND developers that FF has? it's a s**tty tradeoff to have a browser that is a little faster but closed and proprietary. no matter how many cool features the opera programmers decide to include in the browser, they can never match the fundamental appeal of an open source project.
overmannFeb 17, 2006
This is where the fun begin, everything turns into a bare knuckle fistfight. It would be sweet if we could discuss browsers without throwing faeces on each other, and the applications.mrfreeze: Still, I would appreciate if you didn't write Opera off and put it in the same category as IE since they are a long way from each other. And claiming that "they never can match the fundamental appeal of an open-source project" is just thinking inside the box. Functionality and performance is still the most important things to the regular user. And as a developer, I can't really think about anything else that I want then a rendering engine that renders code the way it supposed to. You're talking about a small part of Internet users. It almost borders on lunix-zealotry. ;PI feel it's just a stupid move to shy away from something just because its not open-source. It's all good if you want to write your own extensions to Firefox and keep using it, myself, I have other priorities. I want a lightweight browser that's fast and renders code like it supposed to (no, Opera is not perfect, but at least they try :P). That is kind of important when you design & develop.Anyways, instead of whining over which browser is teh greatest we should focus our energy on standard compliance for _all_ browsers.