electronista.com— Internet Explorer 6 has finally dropped to less than 5 percent share in the US, new data from StatCounter shows.
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Exactly... What you REALLY want to see is that if you combine versions, and just look at the browser type (not separating 6, from 7 and 8, etc) then IE still has 56% or so, and Chrome has finally climbed up to what looks like about 6%.It's amazing how you can twist statistics to mean whatever you want to prove, and most people just dont even think about it.How about "Over the last decade there has been a 99% decrease in the people using Windows 95, therefore Linux is Pummelling Microsoft..." :-)
I was under the impression that you - and most people - would be interested in statistics that reflect a wider range of web users than visitors to the W3 website. If I wanted to know what proportion of web users who were using different browsers, I wouldn't use stats from a site dedicated to enthusiasts.Alternative data is available from sites which monitor a large portion of the web, like Statcounter and <a class="user" href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0" rel="nofollow">http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-sha ...</a> , both of which monitor a wider range of websites, and put combined IE usage higher and Firefox usage lower.I see your point regarding IE6 usage being higher even for a developer-based website, but I don't see that you could use it to trump monitoring services which look at a much wider range of websites.My point is that W3 stats don't reflect the web use of most people. If you're only interested in enthusiasts, then they're great. Of course you're right in saying there's no definitive source, but I would think that tracking sites that monitor more general websites provide more accurate stats.(The 17% for IE6 given by Hitslink is disturbing...) A second point I was making was that I would not trust stats which put IE usage lower than Firefox, because it's common sense that IE has much greater market share. There is no chance it has only 30% share, and this is backed up by stats from other sites.At any rate, we both need to get hobbies - this is a very sad conversation.
IE is University of Illinois' NCSA Mosaic, renamed by Microsoft after they licensed the source code. So the the program is actually a lot closer to twenty years old than it is to ten years old. The ironic thing is who wrote Mosaic. The men who were the founding programmers of Netscape wrote Mosaic as a school project.The hacks, by the way, target features that Microsoft wrote mostly. AcitveX, Active Scripting, JScript - that sort of thing. That stuff was not in Mosaic and it is not in any other web browser. Which is why those hacks do not work in other web browsers.If Microsoft notices IE's popularity really plummeting then they will do what they usually do these days and rename it. Again.
They thought they were building a web application,but what the developers built was an IE5 application.They thought a web user interface would let them access their system conveniently from different kinds of computers and devices,but now they cannot even use those systems or devices, just a really old, outdated, unsupported, dangerous version of Microsoft Windows and its accompanying retinue of outdated applications, system tools, protocols, services, interfaces, networking, and device compatibilities.Their insurance company and customers must be thrilled.Where does he work, "Brigadoon"?
sdigroupJun 2, 2010
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beaverthepyroJun 2, 2010
IE6 - Still the official browser of the large "technology" company that I work for
noisymimeJun 2, 2010
IE6 runs great in Wine ;)(Well, as great as it runs anywhere)
172pilotJun 2, 2010
Exactly... What you REALLY want to see is that if you combine versions, and just look at the browser type (not separating 6, from 7 and 8, etc) then IE still has 56% or so, and Chrome has finally climbed up to what looks like about 6%.It's amazing how you can twist statistics to mean whatever you want to prove, and most people just dont even think about it.How about "Over the last decade there has been a 99% decrease in the people using Windows 95, therefore Linux is Pummelling Microsoft..." :-)
172pilotJun 2, 2010
In a related story... Cars are a technological failure, as 99.999% of Ford Model-T's are no longer on the road.
plonkelyJun 2, 2010
I was under the impression that you - and most people - would be interested in statistics that reflect a wider range of web users than visitors to the W3 website. If I wanted to know what proportion of web users who were using different browsers, I wouldn't use stats from a site dedicated to enthusiasts.Alternative data is available from sites which monitor a large portion of the web, like Statcounter and <a class="user" href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0" rel="nofollow">http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-sha ...</a> , both of which monitor a wider range of websites, and put combined IE usage higher and Firefox usage lower.I see your point regarding IE6 usage being higher even for a developer-based website, but I don't see that you could use it to trump monitoring services which look at a much wider range of websites.My point is that W3 stats don't reflect the web use of most people. If you're only interested in enthusiasts, then they're great. Of course you're right in saying there's no definitive source, but I would think that tracking sites that monitor more general websites provide more accurate stats.(The 17% for IE6 given by Hitslink is disturbing...) A second point I was making was that I would not trust stats which put IE usage lower than Firefox, because it's common sense that IE has much greater market share. There is no chance it has only 30% share, and this is backed up by stats from other sites.At any rate, we both need to get hobbies - this is a very sad conversation.
johnnysoftwareJun 9, 2010
IE is University of Illinois' NCSA Mosaic, renamed by Microsoft after they licensed the source code. So the the program is actually a lot closer to twenty years old than it is to ten years old. The ironic thing is who wrote Mosaic. The men who were the founding programmers of Netscape wrote Mosaic as a school project.The hacks, by the way, target features that Microsoft wrote mostly. AcitveX, Active Scripting, JScript - that sort of thing. That stuff was not in Mosaic and it is not in any other web browser. Which is why those hacks do not work in other web browsers.If Microsoft notices IE's popularity really plummeting then they will do what they usually do these days and rename it. Again.
johnnysoftwareJun 9, 2010
They thought they were building a web application,but what the developers built was an IE5 application.They thought a web user interface would let them access their system conveniently from different kinds of computers and devices,but now they cannot even use those systems or devices, just a really old, outdated, unsupported, dangerous version of Microsoft Windows and its accompanying retinue of outdated applications, system tools, protocols, services, interfaces, networking, and device compatibilities.Their insurance company and customers must be thrilled.Where does he work, "Brigadoon"?
acroyear2Jun 13, 2010
HELL YES!
rabidrabbit1Jun 21, 2010
Check out North Korea's. Apparently all they're able to use is IE 5.0?<a class="user" href="http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-KP-monthly-200905-201005-bar" rel="nofollow">http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-KP-mont ...</a>