arancidamoeba.com — Time and time again we hear that the real reason for the RIAA's scare tactics and lobbying is the welfare of the artists they employ and represent. Here's a breakdown where a band not only isn't paid much but actually ends up owing money.
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rhyno2000Sep 18, 2005
It's its.-- Grammar Nazi
jumjumSep 18, 2005
Maybe the "New Media" will swing over into music as well. You can cut an album at home, band members had to tune their instruments before they got signed, once you get relatively popular you can probably sign a deal with instrument companies that will give you instruments, and you don't need catering - that's what lackey friends are for - to go for pizzas, burgers, etc. (they can probably double as roadies & drivers). Just have an indy music television channel that also has a website that sells the music the channel plays, and run your own thing. Professional musicians don't need babysitters.
thecapitaliztSep 18, 2005
From what i've read here, here's the conclusion that I can come to:The question is: how do you find music without the RIAA? How do I, as a consumer, find new music? There are existing solutions (e.g. myspace, but I honestly have never used it) but many people won't use these things, they just listen to the radio. If you want a business opportunity, here it is: find out a good, alternate method of music promotion, something like a tv/radio/internet show i guess. Yes there are podcasts, but the difference is that you have to promote yours better than everyone else. Get it on radio stations, etc.
el_jefeSep 18, 2005
"I'm doing my part. I download pirated music all the time."Not sure how breaking the law helps the cause... Sure you can justify it all you want, but if someone stole my copyrighted material i would go after them...and im willing to bet most people who "steal" music would do the same.
jasqwertySep 18, 2005
LOL!Two wrongs so make a right. LOL!!!Stealing from thieves makes you a good person. :-)Or if that doesn't work for you:It's okay to steal since they're rich. LOL!!!!Rich people aren't people, and don't deserve their money like I do. :-)
squirlstogySep 18, 2005
"Don't pirate music to fight them, buy indie artists and don't buy the inferior dualdisc copy-protected discs."Amen brotherI work for an Indie label and downloading music is not the way to shut down the RIAA than just justifies there cause. Go to shows, Support local music. Find new music on MySpace and Purevolume. That's how we shut down the RIAA
nuxxSep 18, 2005
f**k! all this stupid evangelising on either side of this argument makes me dizzy!!the way i see it is much simpler. The RIAA rapes artists raw, and pushes crap on consumers.Personally, i don't give a flying f**k what anyone else says or does, because like the Jews and Palestinians, this war is going to go on forever and a day.I download music from the net because I DO REALIZE that i'm getting ripped off @ the local record shop. I use open-source and GPLed software because it tends to perform much more efficiently than corporate-made bloatware, But....I still use Windows when I absolutely need to.I still buy CDs if I really want the whole package (Cover Art, Liner Notes, etc.)but in the case of music, I try not to buy CDs from companies that belong to the RIAA, and being someone who listens mainly to Punk Rock and Electronic Music, that's not too hard.Long Live Linux.Long Live p2p and BitTorrent.Long Live Punk Rock.and of course...PLUR!
omnithropeSep 21, 2005
This article has been around forever, and The Steve should be applauded for it. Thanks again, Steve.
permanent4Sep 22, 2005
"If the RIAA is such a bad guy, then where are the guys who made it big without using their services/machine?"Here's a question nobody asks -- why should it be every musician's goal to "make it big?" What if we create a system where lots of musicians can make a decent living off their music without selling out to the big corporate machine in the process?We live in a country that constantly hits us with this notion that celebrity and stardom are important things. They're not. If celebrity had been so important to Kevin Rose, he'd still be on "Attack of the Show" right now, and there would be no Digg and no Systm. If we really want a new music industry that treats artists fairly, we could start building it right now.Notice how nobody here is discussing the role podcasting can play in creating a better music industry. Podcasting hasn't even come close to reaching critical mass, and it's already helping indie artists make some money. I've got a music podcast (<a class="user" href="http://www.daveslounge.com/)">http://www.daveslounge.com/)</a> with about 2,000 listeners, and I have an online store (<a class="user" href="http://www.davesloungeshop.com/)">http://www.davesloungeshop.com/)</a> where people can purchase the music they hear on my show. I haven't sold much yet, but as long as podcasting keeps growing -- and it's not slowing down, because radio still sucks -- so will the possibilities.We don't all need to be superstars. Many people just want to make a living doing something they enjoy. Why buy into a myth when the reality could be so much more satisfying?
gringoSep 30, 2005
I think the artist should get some software i.e. garage band, premiere or even audacity and record their own music. Have someone build them a website that accepts paypal and sell their music as a download or cd by mail.Eliminate the middle man(RIAA)
battybattybattOct 17, 2005
Palease!The RIAA does not and never did represent Artists. Not ever! The RiAA Represents record companies and studios. That's it.ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC hold the publishing rights to songs that song writers write. That's it!Artists are represented by A: Themselves and/or B: Managers and/or C: Agencies.That's I T !
battybattybattOct 18, 2005
I do believe WackT is real Winner here, yo digg the WackyT !!!
battybattybattOct 18, 2005
Actually, I have to retract an idiotic thing I said on my first digg-back to this digg. I said that ASCP, BMI, and SESAC own the publishing rights. They do not. Sorry, I was in such a flurrie earlier. See better explanation down further.
battybattybattOct 18, 2005
Up further.
battybattybattOct 18, 2005
And now the good news. Once and for all, PROOF, straight from the RIAA site, that ARTISTS (or INDIVIDUALS) are not allowed membership in the RIAA.PERIOD.SPANK THAT PUPPY.STEP AWAY FROM THE VINYL.DROP THE BOOGIE."Become a MemberEligibility for corporate membership in the Recording Industry Association of America, as described in the association's bylaws, is open to legitimate record companies with main offices in the United States that are engaged in the production and sale, under their own brand label, of recordings of performances for home use. Eligibility is not extended to companies that are currently engaged in, have within five years of application been engaged in, or are controlled by any person, firm or corporation which has within 5 years of application been engaged in the unauthorized creation, duplication, sale, importation, or other use of sound recordings in violation of state or federal law. The RIAA does not offer individual or associate memberships."<a class="user" href="http://www.riaa.com/about/members/become.asp">http://www.riaa.com/about/members/become.asp</a>Then again, perhaps I have been a supreme semantist about this whole business.