universetoday.com— Avoid spaghetification. Use a simple calculation involving the mass of the black hole, how powerful your rocket is, and how fast you crossed the event horizon, easily doable on a desktop computer.
May 11, 2007View in Crawl 4
I agree, the method isn't currently known. It was proposed, I believe, by some astrophysicist whose name I forget; I think I read about it in Science News (or possibly in SciAm) several years back. Sorry I can't provide a better reference... The knowledge was sucked away by a black hole stuck in my brain...Note that you are creating and destroying space in equal volumes, so there is no loss in spacetime. I had the same concerns about change in the regularity/structure of space, esp. if spacetime is indeed quantized (per some current theories). As to the cost of the operation; well, we are creating as much as destroying; the energy expense of one may be balanced (plus or minus entropy/work costs) by the energy of the other. (Air conditioning doesn't really "create" cold; it moved energy from one place (inside my room, now at 72 degrees) to another (outside my room, now at 80 degrees). I'm not paying for the creation of cold or heat; my cost is for the transport of the energy.)And on the impracticality of not knowing how to do this? Hey, we're being as practical as the initial discussion, near-lightspeed drives and surviving (for a while, at least) encounters with a black hole!!!!!! (Many-layered ;-) here!)If the black hole is sufficiently large, you may well "survive" for many many years. You may die of old age. It may be argued that the black hole didn't kill you, it just limited your mobility for a period...-Steve
Or you could just land on the planet orbiting the black hole. But then you'd have to worry about the possessed guy with all the writing on him, and the Ood always creeped me out, but that doesn't mean I'd want to leave them on the planet as it falls into the black hole.
gmurray got dugg down for recommending the towel?!A towel is about the most massively useful thing an interstellar hitchhiker can have. Any man who can hitch the length and breadth of the Galaxy, rough it, slum it, struggle against terrible odds, win through and still know where his towel is, is clearly a man to be reckoned with. A towel can be used like a whip, a rope, a tablecloth, a turban, an emergency garment, a scarf, a cape, a bag, or in a pinch it can help you dry off if you get wet.In this case, you can use it as a blindfold.
Anyway you look at it, your survival time equals the avoidance of the spaghetification effect. The point of singularity may not even exist, as you would be broken down into infinite parts -atoms into protons and neutrons, those into quarks, and further infinitely broken down until you became a soup of vibrating strings with no mass and possibly small and light enough to "escape" the black hole opposite the other side you came in, as they wouldn't be affected by the intense gravity, time or space. So, to lengthen a miserable existence inside a black hole you'd have to infinitely rotate your super powerful rocket in all directions to equalize the gravitational pull between your feet and your head and all your other body parts as you're falling down. You would probably spend the rest of your life throwing up though, as I'm sure your tummy would feel very queezy.
jandelooMay 11, 2007
I thought you said goatses and for a moment I was excited.
ciavtMay 11, 2007
Dugg +1 before I read it because the title made me laugh out loud.
dr_steveMay 11, 2007
I agree, the method isn't currently known. It was proposed, I believe, by some astrophysicist whose name I forget; I think I read about it in Science News (or possibly in SciAm) several years back. Sorry I can't provide a better reference... The knowledge was sucked away by a black hole stuck in my brain...Note that you are creating and destroying space in equal volumes, so there is no loss in spacetime. I had the same concerns about change in the regularity/structure of space, esp. if spacetime is indeed quantized (per some current theories). As to the cost of the operation; well, we are creating as much as destroying; the energy expense of one may be balanced (plus or minus entropy/work costs) by the energy of the other. (Air conditioning doesn't really "create" cold; it moved energy from one place (inside my room, now at 72 degrees) to another (outside my room, now at 80 degrees). I'm not paying for the creation of cold or heat; my cost is for the transport of the energy.)And on the impracticality of not knowing how to do this? Hey, we're being as practical as the initial discussion, near-lightspeed drives and surviving (for a while, at least) encounters with a black hole!!!!!! (Many-layered ;-) here!)If the black hole is sufficiently large, you may well "survive" for many many years. You may die of old age. It may be argued that the black hole didn't kill you, it just limited your mobility for a period...-Steve
jorgegtMay 11, 2007
Oh god I actually understand steve's joke! Don't kid to me, I won't get laid ever, will I?
prlmeMay 12, 2007
thats total BS...everyone knows you have to hold ya breath stick ya fingers in ya ear and fart at the same time to counter a black hole.
bobbob1016May 12, 2007
Or you could just land on the planet orbiting the black hole. But then you'd have to worry about the possessed guy with all the writing on him, and the Ood always creeped me out, but that doesn't mean I'd want to leave them on the planet as it falls into the black hole.
way2jadedMay 14, 2007
I'm truly impressed....Not a single "Nappy Headed" in any of the above...AWTF... There I went and ruined a perfectly "good" geekfest...
stealthcMay 21, 2007
gmurray got dugg down for recommending the towel?!A towel is about the most massively useful thing an interstellar hitchhiker can have. Any man who can hitch the length and breadth of the Galaxy, rough it, slum it, struggle against terrible odds, win through and still know where his towel is, is clearly a man to be reckoned with. A towel can be used like a whip, a rope, a tablecloth, a turban, an emergency garment, a scarf, a cape, a bag, or in a pinch it can help you dry off if you get wet.In this case, you can use it as a blindfold.
sombrasSep 14, 2008
Anyway you look at it, your survival time equals the avoidance of the spaghetification effect. The point of singularity may not even exist, as you would be broken down into infinite parts -atoms into protons and neutrons, those into quarks, and further infinitely broken down until you became a soup of vibrating strings with no mass and possibly small and light enough to "escape" the black hole opposite the other side you came in, as they wouldn't be affected by the intense gravity, time or space. So, to lengthen a miserable existence inside a black hole you'd have to infinitely rotate your super powerful rocket in all directions to equalize the gravitational pull between your feet and your head and all your other body parts as you're falling down. You would probably spend the rest of your life throwing up though, as I'm sure your tummy would feel very queezy.