automatedhome.co.uk— Using a Linux based self-built PC router (any old 486 or above), a USB stick, some PCI ADSL modems and some free software to provide huge bandwidth at home!
Jun 15, 2006View in Crawl 4
The machine I'm using is a PIII - can't remember the speed - just the nearest one I had lying around that had PCI sockets :)The 486 part of the spec was taken directly from the site of the guy who wrote the router software (well, put it together with all the scripting and mods etc). I have no knowledge of whether a 486 would would work well with 8Mbps connections or not. The bonded router software was originally designed to run with 2Mbps connections I believe. I know that a few people are running 4 and more 2Mbps connections :)
the problem is that you live in europe. In the US, we get internet service that you would liken to dialup. It is really cruddy and a half over hear. Now, if I lived in Germany, I could get 1 gig down and like 10mb+ up or something like that at consumer pricing. Instead, I pay $45 a month for 4.x down and 350kbps up - it's virtually unworkable for running services.
Its defnitely possible to bond ISP connections without MLPPP. MLPPP restricts bonded adsl or any bonded internet solution. A hardware that our company uses is from <a class="user" href="http://www.xrio.com">http://www.xrio.com</a> - we've combined 3 different isp connections which uses something other than MLPPP - this includes cable and 2 adsl connections. these are from 3 different ISPs which is great for any ISP failures. Not worth having a bonded solution just with one ISP. Plus the download and upload speeds are great. worth a look for those that want more than bandwidth speed. this offers failover and QoS and load balancing too which can be used with bonding.
Bonding DSL is still a work in progress ,im sure some of the big boys are working on new solutions but its not going to happen unless your living in an area equipt with fiber and able to recieve att uverse etc. its just a huge undertaking and as far as load balancing goes , what it does it it will balance the load between multiple isp's. including dsl,cable,satellite etc. dpending on how many ports are available on your load balancer this also allows for complete redundancy. If your dsl goes out it will fall over to the cable or sat. or whatever broadband connection you have connected to your load balancer.Qos is also verry important if your running a wireless isp or plan on it because i use quality of service programs implimented in my base station to make all voip phone calls priority over my network and i cheat by usine a broadband dsl provider which provides me with 10M of broadband speed and im using 4 modems for a number of people all incorporated into my load balancer so all of my customers are always directed to the fastest connection to the internet.Another trick i use is my provider does not like spam, if my server is blacklisted because of excessive spam from some dirt ball it could take me a month to clear it up so i added an additional broadband connection to my load balancer with some piece of s**t sat. company and ive directed all email traffic through this broadband supplier incase of spam issues so if im blackballed i can redirect my emails to a new line ,find the culprit bann them from my service and work on resolving the issue.(by the way,ive found that securing your system via mac authenticating provides your service with percise oversite of your network making it a breeze to catch foes using your network for foul play)If you use mac auth. and your operating on a public ip you can cut their service from vacation in europe if your operation is in the states.NOT LOAD BALANCERS DO NOT INCREASE BANDWIDTH THEY JUST MAKE AVAILABLE BANDWITH MORE ACCESABLE TO YOUR EMPLOYERS OR IF YOUR RUNNING A DATA CENTER WITH MULTIPLE SERVERS IT WILL BALANCE THE LOAD BETWEEN SERVERS TO MAKE YOUR EXTREAMLY HUGE AND PROFITABLE WEBSITE ACCESABLE TO USERS :)
6M is 6M weather your on a mesh network, point to multi point wireless network or point to point network.'The only way your going to gain higher bandwidth is by bonding t-1's together which are 1.5Mps and about 2-300.00us per copper line so if you bonded 3 t-1 lines together your looking at 4-5Mps and around 800.00 per month, you can find high speed Ethernet up to 100M per second for about 2000.00US a month in certain locations and if your lucky the office building with the Ethernet will let you barrow their rooftop for free to shoot your wifi link from.point being load balancing will drive your Internet request to the least congested highest capacity connection at the time of the request it will not double or quad-druple your overall throughput.
Blah Blah Blah, I'm running a wireless isp from a water tower in my home town and I'm using point to point links, point to multi point links etc. etc. I'm using 4 6M dsl modems and a load balance with Q.O.S. implemented with voip and email top priority.I have over 100 customers and i visit a hand full of these customers on a day to day basis and ask how satisfied with the service they are and they are all ecstatic. Their paying 19.00 a month for the Internet service and even more for voip services and people are complaining about more bandwidth.'I do random speed tests and test my network every day and Ive had no customer receive any readings under 5 mps. that's pretty damn good.You need to remember most people are using the net to surf the web and send emails,i believe my sucess is attributed to blocking p2p programs such as kazaa, Napster etc.However i do allow online gaming to take place on my network including x-box,PlayStation etc. and Ive had no major latency issues.Once the company grows i will be adding more and more dsl modems and load balancers to the system and eventually move to wimax and 100M Ethernet. hope this helps some people out.
artofwar420Jun 15, 2006
Need a mirror!
illtJun 15, 2006
not practical in most populated parts of the US. i get 8mbps down/700kb'ish up on 40 dollar/month cable
digizzJun 15, 2006
The machine I'm using is a PIII - can't remember the speed - just the nearest one I had lying around that had PCI sockets :)The 486 part of the spec was taken directly from the site of the guy who wrote the router software (well, put it together with all the scripting and mods etc). I have no knowledge of whether a 486 would would work well with 8Mbps connections or not. The bonded router software was originally designed to run with 2Mbps connections I believe. I know that a few people are running 4 and more 2Mbps connections :)
digizzJun 16, 2006
Maybe in Norway - but not in the UK - The whole point is to increase Upstream speed NOW - not some time in the future.
whittyJun 18, 2006
the problem is that you live in europe. In the US, we get internet service that you would liken to dialup. It is really cruddy and a half over hear. Now, if I lived in Germany, I could get 1 gig down and like 10mb+ up or something like that at consumer pricing. Instead, I pay $45 a month for 4.x down and 350kbps up - it's virtually unworkable for running services.
bearsk1nJul 25, 2007
I know this is an old thread, but....In Western Washington a company called Worldlink has recently started offering Bonded DSL as a legitimate offering. up to 28Mbps with an SLA! finally an affordable alternative to a slow ass T-1. <a class="user" href="http://www.w-link.com/bondeddsl.php">http://www.w-link.com/bondeddsl.php</a>
loadbondFeb 11, 2008
Its defnitely possible to bond ISP connections without MLPPP. MLPPP restricts bonded adsl or any bonded internet solution. A hardware that our company uses is from <a class="user" href="http://www.xrio.com">http://www.xrio.com</a> - we've combined 3 different isp connections which uses something other than MLPPP - this includes cable and 2 adsl connections. these are from 3 different ISPs which is great for any ISP failures. Not worth having a bonded solution just with one ISP. Plus the download and upload speeds are great. worth a look for those that want more than bandwidth speed. this offers failover and QoS and load balancing too which can be used with bonding.
malin2008Nov 15, 2008
Bonding DSL is still a work in progress ,im sure some of the big boys are working on new solutions but its not going to happen unless your living in an area equipt with fiber and able to recieve att uverse etc. its just a huge undertaking and as far as load balancing goes , what it does it it will balance the load between multiple isp's. including dsl,cable,satellite etc. dpending on how many ports are available on your load balancer this also allows for complete redundancy. If your dsl goes out it will fall over to the cable or sat. or whatever broadband connection you have connected to your load balancer.Qos is also verry important if your running a wireless isp or plan on it because i use quality of service programs implimented in my base station to make all voip phone calls priority over my network and i cheat by usine a broadband dsl provider which provides me with 10M of broadband speed and im using 4 modems for a number of people all incorporated into my load balancer so all of my customers are always directed to the fastest connection to the internet.Another trick i use is my provider does not like spam, if my server is blacklisted because of excessive spam from some dirt ball it could take me a month to clear it up so i added an additional broadband connection to my load balancer with some piece of s**t sat. company and ive directed all email traffic through this broadband supplier incase of spam issues so if im blackballed i can redirect my emails to a new line ,find the culprit bann them from my service and work on resolving the issue.(by the way,ive found that securing your system via mac authenticating provides your service with percise oversite of your network making it a breeze to catch foes using your network for foul play)If you use mac auth. and your operating on a public ip you can cut their service from vacation in europe if your operation is in the states.NOT LOAD BALANCERS DO NOT INCREASE BANDWIDTH THEY JUST MAKE AVAILABLE BANDWITH MORE ACCESABLE TO YOUR EMPLOYERS OR IF YOUR RUNNING A DATA CENTER WITH MULTIPLE SERVERS IT WILL BALANCE THE LOAD BETWEEN SERVERS TO MAKE YOUR EXTREAMLY HUGE AND PROFITABLE WEBSITE ACCESABLE TO USERS :)
malin2008Nov 15, 2008
6M is 6M weather your on a mesh network, point to multi point wireless network or point to point network.'The only way your going to gain higher bandwidth is by bonding t-1's together which are 1.5Mps and about 2-300.00us per copper line so if you bonded 3 t-1 lines together your looking at 4-5Mps and around 800.00 per month, you can find high speed Ethernet up to 100M per second for about 2000.00US a month in certain locations and if your lucky the office building with the Ethernet will let you barrow their rooftop for free to shoot your wifi link from.point being load balancing will drive your Internet request to the least congested highest capacity connection at the time of the request it will not double or quad-druple your overall throughput.
malin2008Nov 15, 2008
Blah Blah Blah, I'm running a wireless isp from a water tower in my home town and I'm using point to point links, point to multi point links etc. etc. I'm using 4 6M dsl modems and a load balance with Q.O.S. implemented with voip and email top priority.I have over 100 customers and i visit a hand full of these customers on a day to day basis and ask how satisfied with the service they are and they are all ecstatic. Their paying 19.00 a month for the Internet service and even more for voip services and people are complaining about more bandwidth.'I do random speed tests and test my network every day and Ive had no customer receive any readings under 5 mps. that's pretty damn good.You need to remember most people are using the net to surf the web and send emails,i believe my sucess is attributed to blocking p2p programs such as kazaa, Napster etc.However i do allow online gaming to take place on my network including x-box,PlayStation etc. and Ive had no major latency issues.Once the company grows i will be adding more and more dsl modems and load balancers to the system and eventually move to wimax and 100M Ethernet. hope this helps some people out.
jmarco6Apr 25, 2011
vUnity is doing bonding as a service. google it.