thelastboss.com — In 2006, hip hop artist Timbaland stole Janne Suni's award winning song "Acidjazzed Evening" from 2000 and gave it to Nelly Furtado to use in her Loose album. The "Do It" track made them millions. Now Timbaland wants to work with Rockstar Games to make a music game called Beaterator. F*** you Timbaland, no respect.
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dominatusMar 15, 2007
The Grey Album did not "sample" Beatles music, it pretty much played back the entire While Album and Jay Zs entire Black Album together at the same time. Huge huge difference.Also, it sucked.
pacodgMar 16, 2007
There is a name for what a sampler is called, a "DJ"They spin records, mix sounds that wouldn't otherwise have ever mixed, and make new (and sometimes better) sounds.From Wikipedia:"Several techniques can be used by the disc jockey as a means to manipulate the prerecorded music. These primarily include the cueing, equalization and audio mixing of two or more sound sources. However, turntablist DJ's also utilize slip-cueing, phrasing, cutting, beat juggling, scratching, beatmatching, needle drops, phase shifting, back spinning, and more to perform the transitions and overdubs of a number of sources in a more creative manner."This is not just people playing a song over another song verbatim, they mix, they make new sounds, this is not a new art form, geeks here need to get out more often.
fluffywolfMar 16, 2007
The problem is for a start that Timbaland didn't say he sampled the music. He gave no credits what so ever to the original composers, also he never asked for permission to use the sample, which is what every producer out there does when they sample some music, thereby he has effectively claimed authorship of Acidjazzed Evening, which is plagiarism. Extremely blatant plagiarism in the case of the ring tone he made where he only added a short drum loop on top of Acidjazzed Evening. And slightly less blatant in "Do It" where he let the 15 second looped sample become a pop song built entirely on the chords and melody of Acidjazzed Evening, slightly less blatant as he actually added some creative work to the song, but the only thing left in "Do It" if you removed the bass line, chords and melody that are all derived from Acidjazzed Evening's chords and melody would be a 4 second drum loop and the text of Nelly's singing so I feel it is still plagiarism.And further sampling is simply a technique, justifying something as OK just because it is a sample is well...strange. I can sample a sound of a single hi-hat, I can sample a whole song or I can sample an entire symphony. Sampling is the very same thing as recording something. And sampling and replaying an unaltered looped 15 second theme is not common practice by any remotely talented producer out there, except Vanilla Ice and some other dudes I'm sure Timbaland would not like to be mentioned next to.The problem gets bigger when Timbaland shows nothing but disrespect for the original composers from who he stole his material. I've heard him comment on the theft twice. In a radio interview he said "It's from a video game idiot!" and called the composers "Freaking jerk" and to the MTV he called them laughing stock, when the only thing they have done to Timbaland besides being ripped off is saying that he used their songs. In the light of those comments it gets kind of funny when Timbaland too has ambitions to becomes a "video game idiot".Timbaland is a thief, yes he also is a producer, but it is possible to be both.
fluffywolfMar 16, 2007
...please bury, edit misstake
pacodgMar 16, 2007
"it pretty much played back the entire While Album and Jay Zs entire Black Album together at the same time." - Obviously you never heard it. Also, it didn't suck, it was in fact better produced than Jay-Z's actual "Black Album"
pacodgMar 18, 2007
Of course Jay-Z's parts were not sampled, they were layered over the mixed music. That is how remixes are made. It is how DJ Dangermouse had his career made. Had he not illegally made that great album, he wouldn't have produced a Gorillaz record, he wouldn't have been one half of Gnarls Barkley, etc.
64scenerJun 30, 2007
Some of you are posting NOT knowing how it works with music law/clearence or the demo scene. YES people sample tunes, BUT they have the good sense to clear them. Tim DIDN'T clear or gain permission it in any form, hoping no one would find out.As for GRG's conversion Janne gave him FULL permission to cover it, he had permission. Tim has proffited off it THREE times, muted the bass channel, sampled it AND ripped off the melody, YES the tune is copyright, it even has the copyright msg embedded on the sid file, also there is a disclaimer on the site where tim probably downloaded the tune about copyright usage. It's no talent to just add a kick/snare drum under someones melody. this is wholesale theft and its NOT from a video game, that can also be proven. He needs to do the correct thing, he knows to assume its copyrighted unless otherwise stated.