ygingras.net— "The outdoorsman value light gear. It's part of his nature. It's enough work to carry oneself over rough portage; who would want to carry a hard wood boat?"
Jun 4, 2007View in Crawl 4
I've built them and boiled 2 cups of water in about 5 min.You can get the drill bit for the orifices, and the pin viceto hold the drill bit at hobby stores. These stoves, whichthere are mucho designs on the net, are designed to minimize weight. The basic theory is that if you reduce the weight of each and every item in your pack, includingthe pack, by at least 50% (and with modern materials that'sacheivable), then you've lightened your entire pack,which allows for further travel during the day without becomingexhausted.
dude, you don't have to carry huge metal canisters of propane, they make 4, 8 and 16 oz canisters of isobutane/propane and the empty canisters weight about as much as the bottle you would have to carry the alchohol in. modern canisters stoves weigh only a couple ounces and fold down to nothing. (i use a Snowpeak Gigapower <a class="user" href="http://static.backcountry.com/images/items/medium/SNO0002.jpg">http://static.backcountry.com/images/items/medium/SNO0002.jpg</a> ) On an ounce per ounce basis the alcohol stoves burn a lot more fuel. If you are only out for a couple days you can bring a tiny bottle of alcohol and it may work well for you. but all the other advantages of a canister stove are worth having for me (and I've used both kinds a lot). A decent canister stove will set you back at least $40, so I agree with one thing - alcohol stoves are cheaper, and it's cool to make your own. You will feel a lot more hardcore using a soda can to cook your food, but it isn't as convenient and will take practice if you are used to a huge fold out Coleman deal. Personally I would never carry one soda can stove to cook for multiple people - it will take forever and use tons of fuel.
Not true, having built my first stove from these instructions in about 2 hours.(including finding the parts and tools) I would disagree. This is probably the easiest design that I have seen and a great place to start experimenting. I admit that you do need some mechanical aptitude but this is not beyond the reach of most people. I do agree that you could make them 100% fool proof by the method of using an 8 year old but personally prefer the trial and error route to give greater satisfaction in my ability to solve problems.
speedk0reJun 5, 2007
since none of those pictures are working, try this one:<a class="user" href="http://www.polkadotmittens.com/journal/images/pants1.jpg">http://www.polkadotmittens.com/journal/images/pants1.jpg</a>
addiggtJun 5, 2007
Not sure why I'm getting dugg down, I was simply stating a fact. Sheesh.
mu99insJun 5, 2007
I've built them and boiled 2 cups of water in about 5 min.You can get the drill bit for the orifices, and the pin viceto hold the drill bit at hobby stores. These stoves, whichthere are mucho designs on the net, are designed to minimize weight. The basic theory is that if you reduce the weight of each and every item in your pack, includingthe pack, by at least 50% (and with modern materials that'sacheivable), then you've lightened your entire pack,which allows for further travel during the day without becomingexhausted.
Closed AccountJun 5, 2007
I always like to see things like this.. Better to rely on ingenuity than stores. Bill Mason had a stove called "The Environmental Fireplace". It's a woodburning stove, keeps big black scorch marks off the forest floor, and burns clean, renewable fuel, straight from wherever you happen to be. It inspired me to make one out of a Coleman fuel cannister, heres pics:<a class="user" href="http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/OGTL/zrofl_003.jpg">http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/OGTL/zrofl_003.jpg</a><a class="user" href="http://rainbowssunshine.blogspot.com/2007/04/porcupine-river-canoe-trip-42607.html">http://rainbowssunshine.blogspot.com/2007/04/porcupine-river-canoe-trip-42607.html</a>Works really well, boil water, cook bacon, whatever the hell you please :)
dn11Jun 5, 2007
dude, you don't have to carry huge metal canisters of propane, they make 4, 8 and 16 oz canisters of isobutane/propane and the empty canisters weight about as much as the bottle you would have to carry the alchohol in. modern canisters stoves weigh only a couple ounces and fold down to nothing. (i use a Snowpeak Gigapower <a class="user" href="http://static.backcountry.com/images/items/medium/SNO0002.jpg">http://static.backcountry.com/images/items/medium/SNO0002.jpg</a> ) On an ounce per ounce basis the alcohol stoves burn a lot more fuel. If you are only out for a couple days you can bring a tiny bottle of alcohol and it may work well for you. but all the other advantages of a canister stove are worth having for me (and I've used both kinds a lot). A decent canister stove will set you back at least $40, so I agree with one thing - alcohol stoves are cheaper, and it's cool to make your own. You will feel a lot more hardcore using a soda can to cook your food, but it isn't as convenient and will take practice if you are used to a huge fold out Coleman deal. Personally I would never carry one soda can stove to cook for multiple people - it will take forever and use tons of fuel.
Closed AccountJun 5, 2007
Sorry-dupe
moonkatukSep 15, 2007
Not true, having built my first stove from these instructions in about 2 hours.(including finding the parts and tools) I would disagree. This is probably the easiest design that I have seen and a great place to start experimenting. I admit that you do need some mechanical aptitude but this is not beyond the reach of most people. I do agree that you could make them 100% fool proof by the method of using an 8 year old but personally prefer the trial and error route to give greater satisfaction in my ability to solve problems.