blog.wired.com— Digg isn't the only major website to have forced users to remove a banned HD-DVD hex code: Google is doing it too.
May 2, 2007View in Crawl 4
Having a code does not circumvent the DRM copy protection. The real illegality would lie in one who obtains or creates a program to do the actual circumvention of the DRM. This code is useless without such a thing, it's just a rally-call for anti-censorship (as evidenced by the 30000+ diggs on Kevin's defiant digg blog post.
surely there is a better analogy than that.the whole bit is about a hexadecimal number that they use to encrypt the content on the disc. the number can actually occur in a number of different forms in which they have no relation to encrypt/decrypt of dvd content. one such example i saw on tuesday was an ipv6 address. another was hexadecimal colors.All in all the hex code is just a number. Either randomly developed by a human, or by some crazy algorithm that took some input. I can not imagine that they actually can lay claim to this number. The algorithm that generated the number yes, but definitely not the number itself.
I know i can put the numbers down. I just like to be creative. Heres what it comes down to guys: you can do whatever you want with the number, however, using it to circumvent protection measures on HDDVDs is illegal, and it just so happens that that string of numbers and letters is able to do that, so many sites like Digg and Google are censoring it because they do not want to be associated with an illegal activity. Nobody said it was a registered copyright. Nobody said it was illegal to put it on websites. It is illegal to use however. Think of the word "marijuana." Is it legal for me to write about it and tell you what it does and how to use it and take pictures and put it all over the internet? Sure! Can I USE it legally in the US? NO! Just like this little hex string.
You have to figure that those people who would put such information into malicious use already have the code pasted into a text file named nothingIllegalHere.t3t and saved to a directory called z:WindowzT3mpDoNotLookHereNothingSneakyHereIAmInnocentMyFirewallWasOffThisPornIsNotMineStuffDibbs to shigness17. I should have read EVERY comment first. :)
cryptecksMay 3, 2007
Having a code does not circumvent the DRM copy protection. The real illegality would lie in one who obtains or creates a program to do the actual circumvention of the DRM. This code is useless without such a thing, it's just a rally-call for anti-censorship (as evidenced by the 30000+ diggs on Kevin's defiant digg blog post.
tangentialMay 3, 2007
@loconet: interesting...<a class="user" href="http://www.google.com/search?q=09+F9+11+02+9D+74+E3+5B+D8+41+56+C5+63+56+88+C0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official">http://www.google.com/search?q=09+F9+11+02+9D+74+E3+5B+D8+41+56+C5+63+56+88+C0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official</a>320000 hits.<a class="user" href="http://www.google.com.au/search?q=09+F9+11+02+9D+74+E3+5B+D8+41+56+C5+63+56+88+C0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official">http://www.google.com.au/search?q=09+F9+11+02+9D+74+E3+5B+D8+41+56+C5+63+56+88+C0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official</a>440000 hits.<a class="user" href="http://www.google.ca/search?q=09+F9+11+02+9D+74+E3+5B+D8+41+56+C5+63+56+88+C0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official">http://www.google.ca/search?q=09+F9+11+02+9D+74+E3+5B+D8+41+56+C5+63+56+88+C0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official</a>560000 hits.
darkslide29May 3, 2007
If you guys are gonna stand up to Digg, you know what this means...Time to google bomb.
seculargMay 3, 2007
surely there is a better analogy than that.the whole bit is about a hexadecimal number that they use to encrypt the content on the disc. the number can actually occur in a number of different forms in which they have no relation to encrypt/decrypt of dvd content. one such example i saw on tuesday was an ipv6 address. another was hexadecimal colors.All in all the hex code is just a number. Either randomly developed by a human, or by some crazy algorithm that took some input. I can not imagine that they actually can lay claim to this number. The algorithm that generated the number yes, but definitely not the number itself.
shigness17May 3, 2007
Does it even matter anymore? If a guy like me has it, anyone that can actually put it to use has it etched into their desk.
chimpadinkMay 3, 2007
www.woot.com seems to not care either. they are rocking a podcast with the number said out loud in a song totally mocking anyone who takes it down.
khag7May 3, 2007
I know i can put the numbers down. I just like to be creative. Heres what it comes down to guys: you can do whatever you want with the number, however, using it to circumvent protection measures on HDDVDs is illegal, and it just so happens that that string of numbers and letters is able to do that, so many sites like Digg and Google are censoring it because they do not want to be associated with an illegal activity. Nobody said it was a registered copyright. Nobody said it was illegal to put it on websites. It is illegal to use however. Think of the word "marijuana." Is it legal for me to write about it and tell you what it does and how to use it and take pictures and put it all over the internet? Sure! Can I USE it legally in the US? NO! Just like this little hex string.
kahrnMay 3, 2007
Well, I don't think it is in everyones interest to actually publish the key on Wikipedia itself. However, I think it is fine to link to it.If you scroll down the page, you'll actually find _direct_ links to sites which contain the key. See <a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD_encryption_key_controversy#References">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD_encryption_key_controversy#References</a> ( just one of the links listed: <a class="user" href="http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/04/30/spread-this-number/">http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/04/30/spread-this-number/</a> )
websitewillMay 3, 2007
You have to figure that those people who would put such information into malicious use already have the code pasted into a text file named nothingIllegalHere.t3t and saved to a directory called z:WindowzT3mpDoNotLookHereNothingSneakyHereIAmInnocentMyFirewallWasOffThisPornIsNotMineStuffDibbs to shigness17. I should have read EVERY comment first. :)
jarrrrodMay 3, 2007
!!!
Closed AccountMay 3, 2007
Google might soon have a new UK - <a class="user" href="http://digg.com/tech_news/Google_s_New_Look_Pic">http://digg.com/tech_news/Google_s_New_Look_Pic</a>