gentoo.org — The Gentoo project is pleased to announce the much-delayed release of Gentoo Linux 2007.0. This release met with several delays due to an abnormally high number of security vulnerabilities in large packages which had to be rebuilt using the newer, secure versions of the packages. A new installer, and much needed install media bumps are here.
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redemption289May 8, 2007
democracysucks:Sigh, there seems to be this notion going around that people just install Gentoo so that they can brag about it. While I will admit this is true for some people, I think a majority of Gentoo users are more than willing to help others learn, and only encourage the use of Gentoo because they are excited about what it has to offer. This is exemplified in the many posts by Gentoo users that say, "Gentoo isn't for everyone". As for the benefits of Gentoo, you aren't looking very hard if you say that Gentoo is obsolete. There are plenty of reasons that make Gentoo stand out (portage, USE flags is a BIGGY, maintainability, customizability, and many more.) Furthermore, I enjoy the support base of Gentoo, and think it is much better than other distros (not bragging, just stating my opinion... feel free to disagree.) The Gentoo forums as well as gentoo-wiki are all great resources that have never failed to help me solve a problem. I haven't experienced this level of knowledge and support on other forums (that doesn't mean it doesn't exist). But, I'm rambling again.Let me put it bluntly. Perhaps the reason people accused you of trolling and not using Gentoo is because your posts do seem a bit rude, even if that wasn't your intention. This post, however; is blatant:You simply don't like that I find Gentoo to be obsolete. If you disagree, then say so. But don't come up with lame excuses for dismissing what I said.Morons.I think a lot of these people are happy that users are taking an interest in Gentoo (because it has a lot to offer --see above), and are upset when you make claims that aren't entirely true. For example, Gentoo is not just for hobbyists, USE flags mean you have a lot more control over what you want. This can increase performance, and greatly decreases on the bloated features that some people just don't want in their programs. Anyway, good luck with whatever distro you use (remember its still better than windows :-o).
weizboxMay 8, 2007
It may be osbolete to you since its not what you want. It's like saying Ubuntu is obsolete because I don't like everything pre-installed... I've had to deal with that crap in Windows long enough, and building my system from the ground up works for me.I personally think being able to have bleeding edge versions of software, customized to what I want, is not obsolete. It's obsolete in the sense that you wish not to setup your system like, and thats a preference.. and thats what's great about Linux.Don't bash a Linux distro because its not what your looking for, bash it for some better reasons. Everyone has preferences on what they want, but that doesn't mean that anything related to their opposing views is any less, its just different.Instead of acting like a fanboy yourself, please elaborate on why you see it as obsolete... is it just your preference of what you want after an install.. or is there a real flaw that makes it no longer usable?
weizboxMay 8, 2007
Gentoo is bleeding edge if you want it to be, but it doesn't have to be as well. I have an incredibly stable system even with using some of the newest versions of software that have been masked.I'm not sure where this 'encouragement' came from as far as updating everything all the time, but it is certainly not what I've seen on the Gentoo forums regarding portage. I personally do update often, about once a week... but thats because I do like the bleeding edge stuff, and its somewhat of a hobby for me as well while I learn more about Linux. If you system is working, stable, and has everything you want on there, you don't really have the need to update unless a newer version of some program you want that comes out and has better support for something, or a new feature, etc. Basically, you update when you want/need too... just as anything else in life.One Example: <a class="user" href="http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=1060314">http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=1060314</a>Ubuntu def is a lot easier to manage, but in order to make it that easy for the end user, they have to do a lot of stuff for you, and some people would rather do it themselves in the way they see fit... just as the Ubuntu developers did it their way, as they see fit.Ignoring masked packages will certainly give you a bleeding edge Gentoo system, and from that, stability does suffer sometimes.... but that's only one way to go. By default the packages you would be getting are stable, and the versions are very close to the same, and sometimes older than those in other distros repositories.Summary: there is not 'stable' with Gentoo if you purposely unmask packages and add overlays in order to get bleeding edge versions, update every single package every day, and mess around with your system before you know what your doing.
weizboxMay 8, 2007
Dugg down for saying it's about preference?Damn my rigid ways.. =P
lou123456Jul 1, 2007
do you want to know something funny look what this fagot bastard said to me trying to mind my own business but just had to act like a f**king punk<a class="user" href="http://digg.com/xbox_360/Why_Xbox_360_will_win_the_console_wars/all">http://digg.com/xbox_360/Why_Xbox_360_will_win_the_console_wars/all</a>
gambit89Jul 1, 2007
... eh?