crooksandliars.com — No serious skeptic of global warming would try to argue that these storms disprove global-warming theories (as a matter of fact, they tend to confirm the existing models, as we noted previously). The only people who would try to claim that are clowns -- partisan hacks looking to score cheap political points...
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archiesteelFeb 17, 2010
"If I gain 40 lbs over thirty years, and 39.5 of it in the first 15, it is obvious to anyone I didn't gain any weight of any significance in the next 15."This would maybe count as a valid counter-argument if, you know, it had ANY connection to reality.Please show to me how the warming of the last 15 years is only one 1/79th of the warming that took place in the preceding 15 years.What's that? You can't? Oh, right, you're full of s**t! I forgot for a moment."Whatever warming there was (if there was) has stopped."It hasn't. In fact, 2009 was recently announced as the second warmest year on record by NASA. The only way you can look at a decreasing trend is if you artificially restrict your sample to a very small range.Well, what's good for the goose is good for the gander - since you don't mind using small samples to determine whether or not we're in a warming or cooling trend (despite the fact it goes against the entire body of statistical science), then let's take a TWO-year range, i.e. 2008 and 2009. I can guarantee you there'll be dramatic warming, much higher than anything else in recent memory (except perhaps the 1997-1998 "era")."End of story."Translation: "Don't look behind the curtain!"DDRSkata and I have tried to use logic and reason to argue with you, but it's clear you don't want this, as it would force you to admit you were wrong - even we all know you are. This obsession with keeping the appearance of knowledge while being that ignorant will be your undoing.
Closed AccountFeb 19, 2010
- the highest amount of "braindead" in trolls is usually found in paulians and bangfrogs. cowardice badges find the british neonazi pest in the competion yet - they all will not mind total destruction, the less survivors on earth the easier to terrorize.
originallucid1Feb 19, 2010
"gay slurs"Guilty conscience? You argue like a girl, so I assumed you were one.
archiesteelFeb 19, 2010
So, how does it feel to get beaten by a girl, then?Seriously, you have to be even dumber than I thought to think this is a good comeback on your part.It's clear what's happened here: you can't win with logic, so you retort to homophobic insults.Keep it up, you're only turning people off of your side with those kind of emotional lashing out.
archiesteelFeb 19, 2010
"Would this affect global temperature recordings? Of course."Again, only if a significant amount of weather stations were subject to the kind of development you're talking about in their *immediate* surrounding (i.e. less than 100 feet) for a continuous time period, and if the greater increase at those stations went unnoticed by the scientists who normalize these records. You have provided *no* indication this is the case, and in fact we have every reason to believe it isn't. Your scenario is so unlikely that to seriously consider it is to be grasping at straws after having lost every other argument." but I am saying that the temperature data is absolutely exaggerated."Really? By how much?Actually, serious studies into this have found the effect to be marginal. As I indicated many times, the NASA GISS records already compensate for exactly what you are describing, and the idea that a significant number of weather stations have been at the center of heavy construction for 50 years is ridiculous.I'm sorry, but your argument doesn't hold. You *almost* have what it takes to follow a scientific argument, but in the end your bias gets the better of you."It must have been a decent argument because he hasn't posted on digg since that day."Don't flatter yourself. In any case, Greenfyre is good for finding information, but not the best debater around.
Closed AccountFeb 19, 2010
When the big snows come it is global warmingWhen the snow doesn't come it is global warmingWhen the summer is too wet it is global warmingwhen there is a draught it is global warmingWhen the summer is cool it is global warmingWhen the summer is hot it is global warmingWhen there is a long warm autumn it is global warmingWhen spring come early it is global warmingWhen spring comes late it is global warmingbasically the weather is caused by global warming. The sun warms the earth at the equator while cold air from the poles comes down and mixes with it. This makes unstable air masses that make storms. BUT the new BIG ECO SCARE will be global cooling. Same fixes, higher taxes and same tired bunch of celebutards that are going to pimp the new BIG LIE
Closed AccountFeb 19, 2010
I am not a denier that global warming exists. For a Wisconsin winter day it is glorious.Wait until they are right once before you preach the gloom and doom. In Christianity we call that bad appologetics when you try to make dire predictions. And remember you all are pimping a religion. You never start talking religion from worst parts first.