thinkprogress.org — Fox News Chairman and CEO Roger Ailes was the guest teacher for two classes today at the United States Military Academy at West Point, lecturing cadets on ?the overall historical relationship between the military and the media.? Ailes, who never served in the military, will also deliver a lecture there this evening on ?a variety of media topics.?
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chaosmotorNov 20, 2007
While I agree that Fox News should not be allowed to call itself News, as that misconstrues its nature, try "Fox Propaganda", 1) Cable is not public airways. People are exposed to cable programming by choice, and they pay for it. 2) Corporations are considered individuals under US law. They have the same rights as individuals. Now if you want real solutions on getting Fox out of the lie business, we can -1) Remove personhood for businesses and establish a business entity. Personhood was only granted because corporations were a new concept and didn't have appropriate legal structures. We now have enough experience with corporate behavior to recognize they are not persons, but require a different entity designation. We can recognize necessary functions of incorporation without assigning them human rights.2) Legally establish that corporate entities (once separated from personhood and human entities) have no legal grounds, justification, or acceptable excuse for lying. Lying by corporations should never be acceptable, not ever, for any reason, ever.
skews13Nov 20, 2007
don't worry.there's not as many beleivers being brought into the fold as you might think.thanks to the internet,the fruitcake indoctrination machine.isn't winning as many new inductees,as it used to.
freiNov 21, 2007
<a class="user" href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7634313">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7634313</a> In his final word, the CIA’s top weapons inspector in Iraq said Monday that the hunt for weapons of mass destruction has “gone as far as feasible” and has found nothing, closing an investigation into the purported programs of Saddam Hussein that were used to justify the 2003 invasion.This is common knowledge, why you're trying to lie and say otherwise is ridiculous and insulting.
martinjdNov 21, 2007
I wasn't defining IED's as WMD. You knew that so stop being a baby. If you're uncomfortable with hyperbole I can dumb it down a bit.#1: You still haven't told me how you define WMD. Yes, we did find nerve gas.<a class="user" href="http://www.defensetech.org/archives/000915.html">http://www.defensetech.org/archives/000915.html</a><a class="user" href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html</a><a class="user" href="http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/5/17/170427.shtml">http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/ ...</a><a class="user" href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38213">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI ...</a><a class="user" href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4997808/">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4997808/</a><a class="user" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3722255.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3722255.stm</a><a class="user" href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120268,00.html">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120268,00.html</a>Can I stop now?#2: Ok... we'll take for granted that there are no Iraq/Al-qaeda ties (other than private funding). Ok fine, not even private funding. Forget I even mentioned Al-qaeda all together. Saddam Hussein was in violation of over 30 UN resolutions (which the UN never enforces any more). Most of the resolutions were with regards to military and weapons... and we had ample threats from the Islamic fanatics in Iraq... who at the time conveniently controlled most of the country.#3: My point was that we had international support. If I have my head up my ass that's my own business. I thought you were going to explain how all these other countries in Iraq didn't count.... "LOL POLAND!..."Of course it's not be a matter of interpretation, but everything is a matter of definition. If we all define WMD differently, then we might as well note even be talking about the same thing. Which brings me full circle: what is your definition of WMD?
Closed AccountNov 21, 2007
It's time to "bomb" Ailes with true information. And that is that true Americans are tired of all the "true" lies. Go digg! Go Youtube! Go Ron Paul! FREEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!
martinjdNov 21, 2007
I gave you 7 sources earlier defending the finding of nerve gas. The bottom line is that if it was there in '04, and the CIA said they couldn't find it in '05 - it had to go somewhere. Where that is can only be speculated... but I don't think the CIA is lying, and I don't think that it *poof* disappeared. There's not a whole lot of other options than them hiding it.