bbvforums.org— The internal logs of at least 40 Sequoia touch-screen voting machines reveal that votes were time and date-stamped as cast two weeks before the election, sometimes in the middle of the night.
Feb 24, 2006View in Crawl 4
Why can't everyone else in the country vote like Oregon with mail-in ballots? You can take your time, use pencil so you can erase if you f**k up, even do it in your drawers. Maybe one day..."I put a Bush sticker on my car just piss off college students. You should try it."
>>- they do have a legal/constitutional obligation to not enforce his personal beliefs he>>draws from religion that aren’t part of culture at large on me.>Again, all about you. Everyone should do as you believe. You find it unbelievable that>people do not agree with you.All about me? You keep saying that but it doesn’t make it true. You belong to the small group. A few percent in the the U.S. and pretty much not measurable againstall humans. Yet you think your religion should be selected from all the religions tobe taught as an opposing view in a science class. Now that... trumps any “about me”notions I could ever dream up. >- they are the same thing-just one is your belief.>>When was the last time a Christian walked into a restaurant and blew up children? Without looking anything up... the bombing in oklahoma city. that one bombing probablykilled more kids than all the muslim bombers put together. i don’t care if I'm rightor wrong about that... if you want to look it up and compare killing kids then go ahead.>You comparing me to a Muslim bomber is completely insulting and just shows how you are ran out>of arguments so you result to the lowest form of argument. You are completely>misrepresenting people to help your argument. maybe it is insulting. but they aren’t my stories. they don’t motivate me. what partdid i misrepresent? the part about muslims and the virgins?or the part about the rapture?>You talk about KKK and multiple wives. You>are just throwing out stuff now. I belief nothing like this.what did i misrepresent here? they are all views from various fundamentalist christiangroups... it had its desired effect. you and i agree that their fundamentalist christianviews shouldn’t be allowed to effect you and me. the same as yours shouldn't be allowed to effect the rest of us.>>- we are certainly on course to wwIII.>>I knew the truth would come out eventually. You are a nutcase conspiracy theorist. Are you>even out of high school yet? If so, haven't you heard the crap for years and years? Saying>Bush believes this load is just made up on your part. He has said NOTHING like this. You>want to believe the man is nuts because you don't like him.this is what i said:>>bush has put pressure on nasa, noaa, jpl and others to edit and have approved anything they>>say. the things to be edited are being judged from a perspective that is pretty much exclusive>>to religious groups.>>>>he has cut funding on science. stem-cell research. space... >>>>he has redirected funding for social programs to religious groups. >>>>he believes that the U.S. is gods chosen country and that we/he have a mission.>>>>he has endorsed teaching religion in schools. >>>>he endorses prayer in schools.>>>>he is well known for not wanting to study about things before making decisions because>>he wants to make them on his gut feelings... you say he hasn’t done any of this?you think if and when iran jumps into the iraq war we won’t have war going on from Afghanistan through iraq... iran, syria... of course they surround jordan... and youhaven’t heard bush and the Israelis talk about invalidating the democratic electionsfor the palestinians? do you think if war is going on in these other muslim countriesthat Israel won’t come under attack? did you read in the news that saudi oil interestswere attacked by al qaeda? did you read that in egypt they put off elections becausethey are afraid that fundamentalists will get too many votes? if that doesn’t sound like wwIII then... i do stand corrected. and if GW didn’t mislead us then... well he did. the only question is was it on purpose.
- aren’t willing to actually support your opinions.You are not willing to listen to anyone's opinions. Hell, you are still talking about schools. I have said you cannot teach religion in school. Of course you don't listen to anyone but yourself, so you don't remember this or any other support I have given to my opinions. Any support I give for my opinion is not considered support by you because the support does not agree with your beliefs. You are not out to hear others here. You are out to ramble on and on about your agenda.
- my agenda is about including everyone. your agenda is about making your religion worth more than all the other religions. you are the bully that can't stand to not have your "opinions" not accepted as real. most of the time we let you all off the hook. right now i'm just not in the mood to...Funny, this is EXACTLY what I think of you.- nope. i looked back. you didn't. you're blowing smoke... throwing s**t and hoping it sticks. It was on a previous subject there genius. You are the one that brought schools into this for no reason. See, you have to look back to see what people say. You don't listen to them.
Closed AccountFeb 25, 2006
We should vote like we digg. The one with the most "diggs" win.
jimmarchwbbvFeb 25, 2006
Track the comments on this thread:<a class="user" href="http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-auth.cgi?file=/1954/19421.html">http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-auth.cgi?file=/1954/19421.html</a>There's a lot more "tech detail" available.A general note: we at BBV have no clue what was actually done. It's quite possible no hacking was done at all, or if it was it involved a race further down the ticket than the prez race.The issue here is that these are OUR VOTES. They don't own them, they're their caretakers, and they're doing an unbelievably poor job of it. It's up to the elections officials to prove the race was fair and these funky errors prevent that, bigtime.Jim MarchBBV staff
gdrewpowersFeb 27, 2006
Why can't everyone else in the country vote like Oregon with mail-in ballots? You can take your time, use pencil so you can erase if you f**k up, even do it in your drawers. Maybe one day..."I put a Bush sticker on my car just piss off college students. You should try it."
starmanjonesFeb 27, 2006
>>- they do have a legal/constitutional obligation to not enforce his personal beliefs he>>draws from religion that aren’t part of culture at large on me.>Again, all about you. Everyone should do as you believe. You find it unbelievable that>people do not agree with you.All about me? You keep saying that but it doesn’t make it true. You belong to the small group. A few percent in the the U.S. and pretty much not measurable againstall humans. Yet you think your religion should be selected from all the religions tobe taught as an opposing view in a science class. Now that... trumps any “about me”notions I could ever dream up. >- they are the same thing-just one is your belief.>>When was the last time a Christian walked into a restaurant and blew up children? Without looking anything up... the bombing in oklahoma city. that one bombing probablykilled more kids than all the muslim bombers put together. i don’t care if I'm rightor wrong about that... if you want to look it up and compare killing kids then go ahead.>You comparing me to a Muslim bomber is completely insulting and just shows how you are ran out>of arguments so you result to the lowest form of argument. You are completely>misrepresenting people to help your argument. maybe it is insulting. but they aren’t my stories. they don’t motivate me. what partdid i misrepresent? the part about muslims and the virgins?or the part about the rapture?>You talk about KKK and multiple wives. You>are just throwing out stuff now. I belief nothing like this.what did i misrepresent here? they are all views from various fundamentalist christiangroups... it had its desired effect. you and i agree that their fundamentalist christianviews shouldn’t be allowed to effect you and me. the same as yours shouldn't be allowed to effect the rest of us.>>- we are certainly on course to wwIII.>>I knew the truth would come out eventually. You are a nutcase conspiracy theorist. Are you>even out of high school yet? If so, haven't you heard the crap for years and years? Saying>Bush believes this load is just made up on your part. He has said NOTHING like this. You>want to believe the man is nuts because you don't like him.this is what i said:>>bush has put pressure on nasa, noaa, jpl and others to edit and have approved anything they>>say. the things to be edited are being judged from a perspective that is pretty much exclusive>>to religious groups.>>>>he has cut funding on science. stem-cell research. space... >>>>he has redirected funding for social programs to religious groups. >>>>he believes that the U.S. is gods chosen country and that we/he have a mission.>>>>he has endorsed teaching religion in schools. >>>>he endorses prayer in schools.>>>>he is well known for not wanting to study about things before making decisions because>>he wants to make them on his gut feelings... you say he hasn’t done any of this?you think if and when iran jumps into the iraq war we won’t have war going on from Afghanistan through iraq... iran, syria... of course they surround jordan... and youhaven’t heard bush and the Israelis talk about invalidating the democratic electionsfor the palestinians? do you think if war is going on in these other muslim countriesthat Israel won’t come under attack? did you read in the news that saudi oil interestswere attacked by al qaeda? did you read that in egypt they put off elections becausethey are afraid that fundamentalists will get too many votes? if that doesn’t sound like wwIII then... i do stand corrected. and if GW didn’t mislead us then... well he did. the only question is was it on purpose.
tonageFeb 27, 2006
- aren’t willing to actually support your opinions.You are not willing to listen to anyone's opinions. Hell, you are still talking about schools. I have said you cannot teach religion in school. Of course you don't listen to anyone but yourself, so you don't remember this or any other support I have given to my opinions. Any support I give for my opinion is not considered support by you because the support does not agree with your beliefs. You are not out to hear others here. You are out to ramble on and on about your agenda.
tonageMar 2, 2006
- my agenda is about including everyone. your agenda is about making your religion worth more than all the other religions. you are the bully that can't stand to not have your "opinions" not accepted as real. most of the time we let you all off the hook. right now i'm just not in the mood to...Funny, this is EXACTLY what I think of you.- nope. i looked back. you didn't. you're blowing smoke... throwing s**t and hoping it sticks. It was on a previous subject there genius. You are the one that brought schools into this for no reason. See, you have to look back to see what people say. You don't listen to them.