education.mit.edu— "StarLogo TNG is The Next Generation of StarLogo modeling and simulation software. It has large features for 3D modelling"
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Yes, I've noticed that just about anytime a program is ported from Windows to Linux, that the programmer seems stuck on assigning static libraries. They don't seem to know how to assign "library.lib-0.1 _Or Greater_". For the longest time, yahoo messenger would work on my Mandrake machine for about a week, until I ran system updates. I think they finally caught on, although I don't use it anymore.Porting from Linux/Un*x to Windows/Mac seems to be much more efficient. I think I'll leave it alone until they get it straightened out.
wow.... someone who actually understand the merits of this program. Agent based modelling is the key word people. When I was learning about computer simulations while getting my degree we used a program called Arena which ws quite expensive and used 2D models. Something like this can be quite useful, especially if I want to show a future employer I understand computer simulation concepts and statistics.
Graphical Programming sucks. It is one of the hardest things to work with because you have to find the command you need or the statement, click+drag and place it on the screen. It would be so much quicker to just type if(foo) then(bar) than search for that damn 'if' statment graphic."Removing the Syntax Barrier" = limiting the speed and efficiency of writing an application/whatever.
There are video tutorials at:<a class="user" href="http://education.mit.edu/starlogo-tng/tutorial-videos/">http://education.mit.edu/starlogo-tng/tutorial-videos/</a>They explain how to do basically everything you could want to do to get started.By the way, I noticed some of you were digging down because it is too simple/easy/not powerful enough. I think that you'll find that, for agent based modelling, this program can get the job done. Secondly, the target audience is kids in middle and high school as well as their non-CS-educated teachers. We are trying to bring things that were previously restricted only to CS people to the masses.Think of it like Ubuntu minus the expandability (although a major extension mechanism is slated for addition in the next 3 months). We want to bring programming, designing, and modelling to everyone. Once they get it, they can be psyched about it, Johnny will be able to program, and good things will happen. So we hope. (and please, don't attack/flame the Ubuntu comment. take it as praise of a system that brought arcane technology [linux] to the masses, just as we hope to do)
@Cheney:I use Blender as well, but you realize that this software is about modeling SITUATIONS and EVENTS not meshes, right?This is about behavior simulation and stuff like that, unlike Blender."While this version holds true to the premise of StarLogo as a tool to create and understand simulations of complex systems"Please stop making us Blender-heads look like idiots.P.S.: Some of your diamonds fall through the plane. Whoops?
I *have* used blender quite a lot, and i dont see how you seem to think it is so bad. Then again, i dont really like the Maya UI. It's all what you are used to.For that matter, i prefer 3ds Max.
mhearneJul 31, 2006
Yes, I've noticed that just about anytime a program is ported from Windows to Linux, that the programmer seems stuck on assigning static libraries. They don't seem to know how to assign "library.lib-0.1 _Or Greater_". For the longest time, yahoo messenger would work on my Mandrake machine for about a week, until I ran system updates. I think they finally caught on, although I don't use it anymore.Porting from Linux/Un*x to Windows/Mac seems to be much more efficient. I think I'll leave it alone until they get it straightened out.
rac3r5Jul 31, 2006
wow.... someone who actually understand the merits of this program. Agent based modelling is the key word people. When I was learning about computer simulations while getting my degree we used a program called Arena which ws quite expensive and used 2D models. Something like this can be quite useful, especially if I want to show a future employer I understand computer simulation concepts and statistics.
paularmsJul 31, 2006
Graphical Programming sucks. It is one of the hardest things to work with because you have to find the command you need or the statement, click+drag and place it on the screen. It would be so much quicker to just type if(foo) then(bar) than search for that damn 'if' statment graphic."Removing the Syntax Barrier" = limiting the speed and efficiency of writing an application/whatever.
dsg123456789Jul 31, 2006
There are video tutorials at:<a class="user" href="http://education.mit.edu/starlogo-tng/tutorial-videos/">http://education.mit.edu/starlogo-tng/tutorial-videos/</a>They explain how to do basically everything you could want to do to get started.By the way, I noticed some of you were digging down because it is too simple/easy/not powerful enough. I think that you'll find that, for agent based modelling, this program can get the job done. Secondly, the target audience is kids in middle and high school as well as their non-CS-educated teachers. We are trying to bring things that were previously restricted only to CS people to the masses.Think of it like Ubuntu minus the expandability (although a major extension mechanism is slated for addition in the next 3 months). We want to bring programming, designing, and modelling to everyone. Once they get it, they can be psyched about it, Johnny will be able to program, and good things will happen. So we hope. (and please, don't attack/flame the Ubuntu comment. take it as praise of a system that brought arcane technology [linux] to the masses, just as we hope to do)
coneJul 31, 2006
@Cheney:I use Blender as well, but you realize that this software is about modeling SITUATIONS and EVENTS not meshes, right?This is about behavior simulation and stuff like that, unlike Blender."While this version holds true to the premise of StarLogo as a tool to create and understand simulations of complex systems"Please stop making us Blender-heads look like idiots.P.S.: Some of your diamonds fall through the plane. Whoops?
rockintom99Aug 1, 2006
Hiker: Go watch elephant dreams, and then say that again. Blender can do just as good as maya. The only real limiter is your skill.
hades32Aug 1, 2006
<a class="user" href="http://education.mit.edu/starlogo-tng/download/preview3/StarLogoTNGSetup.exe">http://education.mit.edu/starlogo-tng/download/preview3/StarLogoTNGSetup.exe</a>
rockintom99Aug 2, 2006
I *have* used blender quite a lot, and i dont see how you seem to think it is so bad. Then again, i dont really like the Maya UI. It's all what you are used to.For that matter, i prefer 3ds Max.