ecoworldly.com — At present, China produces just over 6 Gigawatts (GW) of wind energy, making it 5th in the world for total wind energy. However, with China’s massive push for 21st Century renewable technologies, we shouldn’t be surprised if China achieves 100 GW by 2020 say energy experts.
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arjieJul 6, 2008
Per capita the US is still the most polluting country, and those numbers aren't biased due to a small population. However, that statement is not intended as a it's-your-fault pointing finger, it's just a reminder that each of you has greater potential to reduce greenhouse gases than each of us in the developing world.
barrybloggerJul 6, 2008
Sounds to me like it's time to buy stock in some Chinese wind companies! See below:<a class="user" href="http://seekingalpha.com/article/64941-blowing-hot-air-at-china-wind-systems">http://seekingalpha.com/article/64941-blowing-hot- ...</a>
desertdenizenJul 6, 2008
Calm down, Drake. You're missing the point. Totalitarian regimes, for all their faults, don't have to deal with a lot of the compromises that democracies do, such as when Castro forced college students to teach villagers to read and achieved near 100% literacy in a couple of years.Nobody is saying this is how things should be. The fact remains that, if the Chinese gov't pushes a wind power agenda, it could dramatically alter the economics of wind power for the rest of the world, such as by instituting mass-produced turbines at previously impossibly low prices.Sometimes good benefits spill over from bad political philosophies. We have to look at the good and bad, not just the bad, otherwise we're just as close-minded as the totalitarian leaders.
xkhaozxJul 6, 2008
Wow, talk about over generalization."equipment quality in China tends to be not very high"I think you may be confused with American products manufactured in China. "how much of the capacity is down because of problems (a very common occurrence in China)"Yeah, how about some numbers to prove that "problems" occur more in China than other countries, instead of making such a random remark."(this is hopefully less common if the sites were chosen correctly.)"Yes, because China scientists and engineers are obviously less competent than the almighty aki009, who knows exactly where to place wind generators."As a word of caution let's not forget that this is a _communist_ country that has a track record of caring more about how things look on paper than how well they work in reality"First of all, China is _not_ a communist country. The closest thing to a communist country would be cuba, and even they aren't an exact communist country.And obviously, China is the ONLY government in the world that believes perception is more important than results. I mean, there's no way politicians in the US try to pull off the same crap (thinkofthechildren laws anyone?). And either way, the entire idea that their just BSing this for publicity is completely retarded. China has a very strong motivation to lower their dependency on coal and oil. Their growth rate is massive, and they need to build a sustainable power supply, as well as start lowering the massive pollution they are creating. Seriously though, what a random rant.
aki009Jul 6, 2008
Yes. For export. Your point?
Closed AccountJul 6, 2008
You are right desertD, I don't follow the stock market, I profit from it. Especially from solars. And after Munich conference.
barackalypseJul 6, 2008
Ok, here's a tip, when discussing alternative energy (sources that have highly variable instantaneous outputs) you should be quoting how much energy it produces per year or some other suitable amount of time, not how much instantaneous power it is capable of producing under whatever rated conditions. A 200 watt solar panel doesn't tell me how much energy I can expect it to produce unless you tell me where it is, that panel produces perhaps 0.7 kilowatt hours per day by me, but in California it would produce closer to 1.2 kilowatt hours per day. So of China's 6 GW, how many kilowatt hours per year is it actually producing?
Closed AccountJul 6, 2008
What? Do you think if the USA over-populated in the future, the government would quickly act and implement a 1-child policy? While India's population continues to spiral out of control, China's doing something. Why can't India, with a huge population as well, modernize as fast? Do you think the USA would order its population to plant billions of trees in the face of desertification? Economists have even said that China's system may be better for developing countries. Yes, it IS much more efficient when the government doesn't have to account for each of its citizens' needs and jump through red tape hoopla for everything. THAT is a fact. For good or for worse? That is where the debate should start.
nmessickJul 7, 2008
As someone who had done two stints down in Mississippi doing relief work, I'll stand up and tell you that yes.. there are some people who slipped though the cracks... however many are in the situation they are in because they are too darn lazy to help themselves. I spent weeks building a house for a guy, while he sat in a nearby trailer doing drugs with the little money he made working at pizza hut. He's got a problem and needs help, but he is the cause of his situation... not the government.
nmessickJul 7, 2008
if they don't clean up their air those panels won't work for too much longer.