emailbattles.com— Even Microsofts own Emplyees are getting furious at how "horribly behind the times" Internet Explorer is. This story quotes four MS employees expressing their opinion about Windows' default browser.
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People have to consider this as part of a bigger picture: Large Corporations can't rule. They simply aren't effective anymore. What made Microsoft the leader in desktop software was that it was nible, agile, and responsive. For about the last decade, Microsoft has been following through on momentum alone, growing larger and more bloated (not unlike their software at times). Meanwhile, Apple - who has always stayed small - has continued to thrive by dominating niche markets. Alot of people (the anti-corporate morons, to be frank) get up in arms whenever a corporation grows big and shows dominance. They go from being the golden boys of their industry, to being the evil empires. Examples include Google, Wal Mart, Microsoft, eBay, and soon NewEgg. But what people have to always remember is that the king of the kill got there by being better than the last king of the hill, and they'll only be up there until someone better comes along. Microsoft is currently demonstrating this.
Catch ME,I don't hate everything Microsoft does. However, I do hate the decisions they make simply based around market dominance. Even you must admit that IE does a crappy job of supporting true web standards.The biggest security issue with IE is simply Active X scripting. Active X is tied to the IE web Browser, IE is tied into the core of the Windows OS. This is the crux of the problem, if Microsoft had kept IE separate from the OS, IE wouldn't nearly be as bad as it is, right now.I like competition, and would like to see Microsoft "really" develop IE, but only as a stand-alone app, not a UI plug-in to the OS.
Too bad its bolted on the the operating system. Perhaps they should try to fix that in Vista.> Large Corporations can't rule.Bill Gates must miss the day when he could call everyone an idiot and tell them how crap their ideas are. I forget... was that before or after Billy boy got the IntraWebs religion?> What's most annoying are the billions of dialog boxes that pop up plaguing the entire Vista OS.More evidence that Microsoft hasn't learned a damned thing about end-user requirements in a computer security usability context.> An anti-MS submission on Dig? I am shocked.You know... when there's an anti-MS theme that pervades pretty much every tech. site on the planet, there might actually be an issue at hand. Buy, hey, this ain't a "5 guys from Rolla" MS-circle jerk; so, I could be wrong.> Sites developed that only work in IE are poorly developed sites.The cool thing about IE only sites is that you know who's had the cool-aid; you can then use that fact when you market products and services to them (which you, of course, have outsourced to India, 'cause nobody in their right mind would spend their own time and energy working for a customer that dumb).> Also, anyone who says IE7 is behind FireFox has clearly never used IE7... > it looks funky in Vista but the XP build is amazingSame mistakes, "different" browser. IE7 got the same poke in the eye with the latest zero-day exploit that IE6 got... and don't give me that crap about how "freeze drying" everything in vista will fix all the Microsoft browser security issues that still remain.
Blind IE lovers don't get it. By tying IE to the OS, MS has made it subject to every Windows vulnerability, including the current graphic rendering problem which is so dangerous, it forced MICROSOFT to issue a recommendation that you DISABLE graphics rendering in IE. Turn off ActiveX and graphics. You'll quickly understand why pro-MS fanatics and employees alike are switching to other browsers. The price for sticking with Internet Explorer is too high.
hammerattackDec 31, 2005
People have to consider this as part of a bigger picture: Large Corporations can't rule. They simply aren't effective anymore. What made Microsoft the leader in desktop software was that it was nible, agile, and responsive. For about the last decade, Microsoft has been following through on momentum alone, growing larger and more bloated (not unlike their software at times). Meanwhile, Apple - who has always stayed small - has continued to thrive by dominating niche markets. Alot of people (the anti-corporate morons, to be frank) get up in arms whenever a corporation grows big and shows dominance. They go from being the golden boys of their industry, to being the evil empires. Examples include Google, Wal Mart, Microsoft, eBay, and soon NewEgg. But what people have to always remember is that the king of the kill got there by being better than the last king of the hill, and they'll only be up there until someone better comes along. Microsoft is currently demonstrating this.
cybrwolfDec 31, 2005
Catch ME,I don't hate everything Microsoft does. However, I do hate the decisions they make simply based around market dominance. Even you must admit that IE does a crappy job of supporting true web standards.The biggest security issue with IE is simply Active X scripting. Active X is tied to the IE web Browser, IE is tied into the core of the Windows OS. This is the crux of the problem, if Microsoft had kept IE separate from the OS, IE wouldn't nearly be as bad as it is, right now.I like competition, and would like to see Microsoft "really" develop IE, but only as a stand-alone app, not a UI plug-in to the OS.
Closed AccountDec 31, 2005
@rc_collins:"I have yet to figure out why people care what browser they use"Therein lies the problem
memphisDec 31, 2005
I dont hate IE, I just hate Microsift.
Closed AccountDec 31, 2005
Too bad its bolted on the the operating system. Perhaps they should try to fix that in Vista.> Large Corporations can't rule.Bill Gates must miss the day when he could call everyone an idiot and tell them how crap their ideas are. I forget... was that before or after Billy boy got the IntraWebs religion?> What's most annoying are the billions of dialog boxes that pop up plaguing the entire Vista OS.More evidence that Microsoft hasn't learned a damned thing about end-user requirements in a computer security usability context.> An anti-MS submission on Dig? I am shocked.You know... when there's an anti-MS theme that pervades pretty much every tech. site on the planet, there might actually be an issue at hand. Buy, hey, this ain't a "5 guys from Rolla" MS-circle jerk; so, I could be wrong.> Sites developed that only work in IE are poorly developed sites.The cool thing about IE only sites is that you know who's had the cool-aid; you can then use that fact when you market products and services to them (which you, of course, have outsourced to India, 'cause nobody in their right mind would spend their own time and energy working for a customer that dumb).> Also, anyone who says IE7 is behind FireFox has clearly never used IE7... > it looks funky in Vista but the XP build is amazingSame mistakes, "different" browser. IE7 got the same poke in the eye with the latest zero-day exploit that IE6 got... and don't give me that crap about how "freeze drying" everything in vista will fix all the Microsoft browser security issues that still remain.
splitzDec 31, 2005
Blind IE lovers don't get it. By tying IE to the OS, MS has made it subject to every Windows vulnerability, including the current graphic rendering problem which is so dangerous, it forced MICROSOFT to issue a recommendation that you DISABLE graphics rendering in IE. Turn off ActiveX and graphics. You'll quickly understand why pro-MS fanatics and employees alike are switching to other browsers. The price for sticking with Internet Explorer is too high.
t928Dec 31, 2005
this is old.