1) Yes the terrorists! Run! Bottom line: you have a higher probability of being struck by lightning than you do of dying in a terrorist attack... so take your fear mongering somewhere else. Why do people think that immigrants don't pay taxes??? It boggles my mind! Do you really think that people working in hotels, restaurants, as janitors, etc. don't pay taxes? They use fake/borrowed/bought Social Security cards to get hired! And YES taxes DO get deducted from their checks like everyone else. Plus they pay sales taxes, property taxes included in any rent, etc., etc. And on top of that they can't ever file for a refund because the social is not legitimately theirs... so the government keeps it all. Statistics of people on welfare straight from AFDC:White 38.8%Black 39.8%Hispanic 15.7%Asian 2.4%other 3.3%Well, I have to agree the healthcare system is screwed up, but it isn't due to immigrants, it is due to greedy insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, etc. We should have nationwide coverage like all other industrialized nations on earth do.2) "Do you really think Bush and Cheney are making the decisions in Escondido?" Are you really that stupid? It's an example of a tactic the city government is using to create division among the Escondido community.3) Americans are unfortunately now paying for the stupid imperialistic decisions made by previous administrations. Decolonize your mind... read this book (or at least the summary):<a class="user" href="http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Hawaii/dp/0805078614">http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Hawaii/dp/0805078614</a>4) You're quotes suck... pick more relevant ones next time.
Alright. alright. Now that everyone has gotten to express thieropinions, I am going to express mine. I think Carlosglz is right. Ibelieve what happened in the past DOES affect what is going on hereand now. History repeats itself, and we can see that as fact. Now, atone point in time, we all were immigrants here unless you are pureAmerican Indian or Mexican Indian. So, now that has been said, theUnite States is indeed a mixing pot of cultures. Including Europeancultures. White people were not here since the begining of time(Although many would like to think so). This country was made great bythe influx of hard working immigrants for Europe, Asia (The Chinesebuilt great railroads for us, and sacrificed many lives to do so) andsome were brought here against their will (namely the AfricanAmericans) and yes, even Mexicans and people from all of LatinAmerica. Although I am not an immigrant (My family has lived in Texassince 1761 when it was under Spanish rule), I do know some immigrants,both legal and illegal. I sang in a restaurant where 98% of the cooks,dishwashers and food preparers were illegal. Yes, I did help with thepassing out of checks, and I do know that they paid taxes, just likeall of us, and they even donated to a emergency fund if any of theemployees suddenly experienced a life-altering event, they would becovered by the donations of the employees. Many of the white, U.S.born waiters/waitresses did not. The cooks were not on welfare, andmost importantly they were paid poorly. If the U.S. does not needimmigrant labor, why were there no black, asian or white peopleworking any of these jobs? If the government REALLY wanted to stopimmigrants for coming across the border and refused to hire them forlabor, they would have already done it years ago. They would havebuilt an impenetrable wall and raised wages. But in truth, thecoorporations know that they need cheap labor so they end up makingmore money in the long run. In business terms, why would someone payMORE money for a certain job when they have people lining up to dothat same job for less? They know this, and that is how they have keptit. In conclusion, when attacking the immigrants, you should rememberthat a brave ancestor of yours came here from a different country toseek the same opportunities as the immigrants of today are. If yourancestor was rich and happy, what in the world would have caused themto want to leave and come here? They were most likely looking for anew land of opportunity where they wouldn't have to be poor and theycould be free. What would your life be like today if they were sentback to thier home country? It's just something to think about.
JennSierra you are living in lala land. what carlos is saying is absolutely not propaganda! it is hard cold fact, i personally know people that have been affected by militants trained at that government run terrorist training school in georgia.What is hard is for people to admit (it was very hard for me to believe it at first and would make fun of people that did) is that their own government uses their hard earned tax dollars to commit acts of injustice and tyranny in other countries. Jenn, you seem like a smart, educated, passionate, sincere person. Educate yourself about the school of the americas, really, the things you will learn will make your stomach hurt.
Closed AccountOct 19, 2006
Well done Escondido. Protect thyself.
carlosglzOct 19, 2006
1) Yes the terrorists! Run! Bottom line: you have a higher probability of being struck by lightning than you do of dying in a terrorist attack... so take your fear mongering somewhere else. Why do people think that immigrants don't pay taxes??? It boggles my mind! Do you really think that people working in hotels, restaurants, as janitors, etc. don't pay taxes? They use fake/borrowed/bought Social Security cards to get hired! And YES taxes DO get deducted from their checks like everyone else. Plus they pay sales taxes, property taxes included in any rent, etc., etc. And on top of that they can't ever file for a refund because the social is not legitimately theirs... so the government keeps it all. Statistics of people on welfare straight from AFDC:White 38.8%Black 39.8%Hispanic 15.7%Asian 2.4%other 3.3%Well, I have to agree the healthcare system is screwed up, but it isn't due to immigrants, it is due to greedy insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, etc. We should have nationwide coverage like all other industrialized nations on earth do.2) "Do you really think Bush and Cheney are making the decisions in Escondido?" Are you really that stupid? It's an example of a tactic the city government is using to create division among the Escondido community.3) Americans are unfortunately now paying for the stupid imperialistic decisions made by previous administrations. Decolonize your mind... read this book (or at least the summary):<a class="user" href="http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Hawaii/dp/0805078614">http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Hawaii/dp/0805078614</a>4) You're quotes suck... pick more relevant ones next time.
dolphingrlOct 19, 2006
Alright. alright. Now that everyone has gotten to express thieropinions, I am going to express mine. I think Carlosglz is right. Ibelieve what happened in the past DOES affect what is going on hereand now. History repeats itself, and we can see that as fact. Now, atone point in time, we all were immigrants here unless you are pureAmerican Indian or Mexican Indian. So, now that has been said, theUnite States is indeed a mixing pot of cultures. Including Europeancultures. White people were not here since the begining of time(Although many would like to think so). This country was made great bythe influx of hard working immigrants for Europe, Asia (The Chinesebuilt great railroads for us, and sacrificed many lives to do so) andsome were brought here against their will (namely the AfricanAmericans) and yes, even Mexicans and people from all of LatinAmerica. Although I am not an immigrant (My family has lived in Texassince 1761 when it was under Spanish rule), I do know some immigrants,both legal and illegal. I sang in a restaurant where 98% of the cooks,dishwashers and food preparers were illegal. Yes, I did help with thepassing out of checks, and I do know that they paid taxes, just likeall of us, and they even donated to a emergency fund if any of theemployees suddenly experienced a life-altering event, they would becovered by the donations of the employees. Many of the white, U.S.born waiters/waitresses did not. The cooks were not on welfare, andmost importantly they were paid poorly. If the U.S. does not needimmigrant labor, why were there no black, asian or white peopleworking any of these jobs? If the government REALLY wanted to stopimmigrants for coming across the border and refused to hire them forlabor, they would have already done it years ago. They would havebuilt an impenetrable wall and raised wages. But in truth, thecoorporations know that they need cheap labor so they end up makingmore money in the long run. In business terms, why would someone payMORE money for a certain job when they have people lining up to dothat same job for less? They know this, and that is how they have keptit. In conclusion, when attacking the immigrants, you should rememberthat a brave ancestor of yours came here from a different country toseek the same opportunities as the immigrants of today are. If yourancestor was rich and happy, what in the world would have caused themto want to leave and come here? They were most likely looking for anew land of opportunity where they wouldn't have to be poor and theycould be free. What would your life be like today if they were sentback to thier home country? It's just something to think about.
carlosglzOct 20, 2006
More wonderful information about our lovely organization the School of the Americas:<a class="user" href="http://www.soaw.org/new/type.php?type=8">http://www.soaw.org/new/type.php?type=8</a>
brigantemontanaOct 20, 2006
JennSierra you are living in lala land. what carlos is saying is absolutely not propaganda! it is hard cold fact, i personally know people that have been affected by militants trained at that government run terrorist training school in georgia.What is hard is for people to admit (it was very hard for me to believe it at first and would make fun of people that did) is that their own government uses their hard earned tax dollars to commit acts of injustice and tyranny in other countries. Jenn, you seem like a smart, educated, passionate, sincere person. Educate yourself about the school of the americas, really, the things you will learn will make your stomach hurt.
lunchbucketOct 22, 2006Submitter
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