Oh, and I didn't denounce them, they denounced themselves. I tried to have a conversation. They couldn't go past tired rhetoric.As for "expended energy". I expend more energy helping out my community every week than you expend in a year. You obviously have NO idea where the Fed building is in Helena, do you? Talking out your ass again? Why you expending so much energy, complaining about what I choose to do with my life? You some kind of fascist overlord, dictating how I live my life?
Well, since anything I say automatically produces a "you support the fed and slavery" type post from you, why can't I do the same?This post will cover your last three comments towards me:I don't support the Fed wholeheartedly. I don't see it as evil, but I do think they are corrupt. There does need to be more control. Like most things, it isn't black and white, good and evil, like you so desperately want to believe.The alternative proposed (weakly) by Ron Paul and his supporters is MUCH worse. The pretense that it somehow has anything to do with Liberty is the problem.Your argument starts from a fallacy. The Gold standard is CRAP. period. I have produced many reasons why. The "Ton Paul said it, so it is true" bent of all your arguments doesn't mean I fall weakly into step, just because YOU do.Standing in front of the Helena branch of the Fed, screaming it is evil, but being unable to even address basic points, is NOT helpful. It is like your comrade's are purposely trying to KEEP the fed in control.And yes, I do know you don't do jack squat in your community. You have talked about it in the past. I worked hard to become successful. I came from nothing. I put myself through school, after saving money in the Navy.I LIKE to help out those less fortunate, who are working to better themselves. I also feel a strong moral obligation to help out poor families, and children. Tell me: when is the last time you volunteered to help a poor family? Not in a group. Just YOU? I split and stacked 2 cord of wood this weekend. It wasn't for me.I will be doing two more next weekend. I know that a single mom with 2 young kids will be warm this winter.Since I "don't know", tell me! I asked before, and you weakly muttered something about doing "your part". I spent too long around Libertarians to buy that lame ass comment. Tell me what YOU do, personally and directly, to help those less fortunate than yourself?
hortnonNov 24, 2008
Thousands...across 39 cities...in a country of 300 million.Does this really have to be spelled out to you?
hortnonNov 24, 2008
What law do you refer to?And what's your plan to replace it?
Closed AccountNov 24, 2008
Oh, and I didn't denounce them, they denounced themselves. I tried to have a conversation. They couldn't go past tired rhetoric.As for "expended energy". I expend more energy helping out my community every week than you expend in a year. You obviously have NO idea where the Fed building is in Helena, do you? Talking out your ass again? Why you expending so much energy, complaining about what I choose to do with my life? You some kind of fascist overlord, dictating how I live my life?
Closed AccountNov 24, 2008
<a class="user" href="http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html">http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html</a>Unfortunately, Hornton is right, the US Constitution does not forbid Congress from delegating it's authority to the Fed. The closest you can get to saying otherwise is the 10Th amendment, and delegation of monetary authority by congress is implicit in carrying the responsibility, so making that argument would be a tough one.<a class="user" href="http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html">http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html</a>
Closed AccountNov 24, 2008
Well, since anything I say automatically produces a "you support the fed and slavery" type post from you, why can't I do the same?This post will cover your last three comments towards me:I don't support the Fed wholeheartedly. I don't see it as evil, but I do think they are corrupt. There does need to be more control. Like most things, it isn't black and white, good and evil, like you so desperately want to believe.The alternative proposed (weakly) by Ron Paul and his supporters is MUCH worse. The pretense that it somehow has anything to do with Liberty is the problem.Your argument starts from a fallacy. The Gold standard is CRAP. period. I have produced many reasons why. The "Ton Paul said it, so it is true" bent of all your arguments doesn't mean I fall weakly into step, just because YOU do.Standing in front of the Helena branch of the Fed, screaming it is evil, but being unable to even address basic points, is NOT helpful. It is like your comrade's are purposely trying to KEEP the fed in control.And yes, I do know you don't do jack squat in your community. You have talked about it in the past. I worked hard to become successful. I came from nothing. I put myself through school, after saving money in the Navy.I LIKE to help out those less fortunate, who are working to better themselves. I also feel a strong moral obligation to help out poor families, and children. Tell me: when is the last time you volunteered to help a poor family? Not in a group. Just YOU? I split and stacked 2 cord of wood this weekend. It wasn't for me.I will be doing two more next weekend. I know that a single mom with 2 young kids will be warm this winter.Since I "don't know", tell me! I asked before, and you weakly muttered something about doing "your part". I spent too long around Libertarians to buy that lame ass comment. Tell me what YOU do, personally and directly, to help those less fortunate than yourself?
Closed AccountNov 24, 2008
Conspiracy theorists are the cancer of the Internet.I am the cure.