news.com.com — EFF has hired two attorneys experienced in suing the federal government under the Freedom of Information Act and plans to open an office in downtown Washington, D.C. A lawsuit currently in progress attempts to force the Bush administration to reveal documents about allegedly illegal surveillance conducted by the NSA!
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haiyadragonApr 28, 2006
Ahead Israel Maccabi controlsis what a crappy arabic translator gave me...
511pfApr 28, 2006
"Yeah, wiretapping terrorists and their allies is bulls**t.Damn liberals."=======================No one has a problem with the wiretapping. The problem is that wiretapping without a warrant is illegal. If the Bush administration would simply obtain the warrants the law requires, this issue would go away. The warrants can be obtained retroactively, so there is no timing problem.Damn Ignorant Republicans.
miketApr 28, 2006
Keep in mind, these are not "private" communications in the first place...you honestly have expectations of privacy when using a wire owned by a public entity?Where, also, does the constitution cover any kind of communication? nowhere? So listening to someone talking on the street is just like connecting to their phones.......ever drivin around town with a scanner going through the 800-900MHz range? its amazing some of the conversations you hear from those older cordless phones!Article II of the Constitution, which makes the President the %u201Ccommander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,%u201D gives the President broad powers to conduct war independently.
brockpetrieApr 28, 2006
@ bonchbonchActually no, Clinton didn't do the same thing. If you knew anything about the FISA Court you wouldn't have said that.See, Clinton actually went through the proper channels (FISA Court) to get express permission to conduct such warrantless procedures, while Bush totally disregarded that requirement and actually conducted this warrantless spying without any consent whatsoever from the FISA Court (and yes, that's what this particular court system was created for).So I think the main thing here is not that this domestic spying was taking place, but the fact that this administration blatantly acted without the permission from the judiciary that hears these types of secret national security cases. Many people consider this as the Bush administration thinking that they're "above the law" as there was literally no oversight whatsoever in this case, which is pretty damn disgusting in my opinion.You can all read about FISA Courts @ <a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FISA_Court">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FISA_Court</a>and FISA @ <a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act</a>
darkhackApr 28, 2006
So, anyone have a solution to how we could monitor terrorist in this country who want to blow up the US???
reddog_x2000Apr 29, 2006
@ So, anyone have a solution to how we could monitor terrorist in this country who want to blow up the US??The wiretaps would be fine if they'd just get a warrant. I know it sounds silly. But, proceedural law is important. All we're asking is that the executive branch not violate the separation of powers laid out in the constitution. In this case, that only takes a token effort. Just make that token effort. Hell, do it up to 3 days later if you must. Bush should just uphold the constitution as he swore to do. This didn't have to become a big deal.