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robojamesFeb 16, 2006
either way, won't matter much once GoogleOS is released.
mrkiteFeb 16, 2006
I don't have time to read the article, but if Apple sold Macs with Windows running on it, who would buy it? No one, because you can find cheaper hardware. With the current Mac, you're getting a really nice UI and stable OS wrapped around some pretty high-quality hardware. I just don't see it happening.
gillsFeb 17, 2006
John, what have u been smoking? or have u now officially lost control of ur senses?
villenummiFeb 17, 2006
OS X is the greatest product of Apple.
skunkman62Feb 21, 2006
what would be cool is if apple comes out with a windows and a osx line of computers. and the windows line out sales osx. all you gay graphics designing mac fanbitches need to stop being defensive and read dvorak's column with and an open mind.
ardosFeb 21, 2006
Dvorak has it almost right except Microsoft has licensed OSX from Apple and will be selling it as Vista.we have all seen the similarity between the to products and it will mean that their is the convergence Dvorak talks about apple will pullback from the software side and let Microsoft develop this as vista allowing apple to continue developing hardware
socrates114Feb 23, 2006
"all you gay graphics designing mac fanbitches need to stop being defensive and read dvorak's column with and an open mind."Probaly the most true statement on this whole thread i espeacilly like the mac fanbitches bit so true....Skunkman is proably the most sensible here you get riled up over what might happen thankgod there arent window fanboys like mac zealots
makgyverMar 16, 2006
iBob, I have tried it and I'm still not convinced. What was the turning point for you?
podiousMar 21, 2006
Good point, Trey!!!
johnnysoftwareApr 18, 2006
With regard to Apple becoming a hardware vendor and shipping Windows, that is exactly how Commodore drove itself out of business. Once they started making PCs instead of Amigas, it only took them a year or two to go out of business.With regard to going and reading the article, usually that is a good idea. However, with a track record like Dvorak's and having read a lot of his "advice" to Apple, it is first of all a waste of time. Second of all, it encourages him to make worse and worse predictions, not better ones. PC Magazine gets paid money by web advertisers every time someone views one of his articles. He writes some pretty crazy stuff, knowing that is surer than anything else he can come up with - such as say real news/facts - to bring the masses hopping on over to his page.His track record for good advice and predictions is pretty bad. Here are examples of such that he has "blessed" Apple and its users/customers with in the last few years:1. Apple will switch to the Intel Itanium chip was his 2003 prediction. In reality, Apple did not switch to the Itanium, and a year or so after he wrote that story Microsoft cut its support for the chip way back and HP, its inventor, dropped using it.2. Apple should open source OS X. The reality is that OS X has been largely open sourced since it was first introduced five years ago! FreeBSD layer is totally open sourced, the Mach kernel probably is, the Darwin part of the OS is, Open Step is. These things not only run on on PowerPC CPUs but Intel CPUs too. OpenStep runs on Intel processors and there is an open source implementation called GNU Step. The Objective-C compiler that is used to compile it is GCC, which is - you guessed it - open source.3. Apple should license its Mac OS to other vendors. They already did that! They did that from the mid to late 1990s - and that is the only way they were ever successful at LOSING money! What kind of business advice is that?? First thing Steve Jobs did when he was rehired by Apple's board after it ditched a couple CEOs who tried that strategy - was to kill off Apple's contracts with Mac OS licensees. When he did that, those companies went under and Apple quickly became profitable again. You can't make a clearer business case than that to prove it was a bad idea.4. With regard to: Apple should drop OS X and switch to Windows - terrible idea. First of all, Amiga went out of business within a year or two after it stopped making its own unique computer and Amiga OS - and started making a PC clone that ran MS-Windows. Proven failure as a business plan. Second, Apple has a good R&D department and why would they flush a golden goose like that down the toilet? Third, it looks a darn sight more certain that Mac OS X 10.5 will ship in the next year than the next version of MS-Windows. Fourth, look how many companies got into bed with Microsoft and either went under, got screwed, or got straight-jacketed into only doing what Microsoft wanted them to do which then limited their income/profit potential. Yes, some got super rich but if you are already doing well like Apple is, why bother? Fifth, Apple has shipped/sold 5 different versions of its OS in the past 5 years; Microsoft has only gotten one out the door in that five years. Sixth, haven't you ever heard of the OEM contracts that MS makes all Wintel PC vendors sell? They have to pay Microsoft for one copy of Windows for every machine they sell REGARDLESS OF WHAT OS ACTUALLY SHIPS ON IT. Crazy, but true. Seventh, because Apple controls their own OS and their own hardware, they are free to add features to either and they get are working immediately. In the PC-vendor/Windows-supplier world, it does not work that way. There is more delay because a whole bunch of companies have to be coordinated. Similar results but it takes longer. Eighth, Apple has a pretty good/safe track record supporting their own new machines with each new OS but PC vendors cannot really guaranty every PC you buy in 2005 or 2006 will run Vista when it finally comes out in 2007. Apple seems to deliver this pretty well and in addition, if they come out with a new OS a month or two after you buy your Mac, they will generally give it to you for free or a nominal free like ten bucks or whatever. Ninth, Apple is able to give all of its 3rd party commercial+shareware+freeware software developers and even end users free software development tools (not _some_, all!). When was the last time Microsoft did that? Ever? Generally they charge hundreds of dollars for their IDE and C/C++ compiler whereas Apple, using open source ones as the foundation, has lower costs and thus makes a machine all developers can afford to not only buy - but develop software for which they can sell cheaply, or give away - without losing money.Dvorak was around during those times in the 1990s and he knows a lot of the business strategies he recommends were bad ideas, in fact the worst ideas that were ever tried.As for the fact that huge parts of Mac OS are open source, I guess he should know that. They have been that way for half a decade and they are a big part of the computer industry. He has covered the computer industry for a couple of decades, so he should know that. And since he is "advising Apple" (?) about what it "should" to or other people/companies what it "will" do, he should make it his business to know what he is talking about.But he doesn't. The reality is he is making a living off of making terrible predicitons, at least as far as what Apple is doing. It is part of his persona or his "character" as a writer and a celebrity. He has a certain image, and to portray that image in a larger-than-life way, he makes these sorts of predictions.By going to his page, you are just paying him to do that, essentially. It does not come out of your pocket but effectively, he still gets paid when you do it.When he starts writing good advice for Apple, not proven disasterously bad business strategies it might be worth taking a look. When his accuracy regarding his predictions of what Apple will do dramatically improve, they might be worth looking at too.However, then he just would not be "Dvorak". So I doubt it will happen. That is my prediction.
static_13May 13, 2006
who cares about dvorak? he's just an stupid fag ass!
burgerboy06Jan 31, 2007
so...many....apple.... fanboys...can't....breath...
chip_whitlyMay 13, 2007
This is nothing more than a Internet media stunt, it gets people talking about him and keeps his "career" alive.