pot isn't the problem... cocaine and heroin is what drives the drug trade. Marijuana can be grown anywhere and cured anywhere. there is no need to have people killed in order to maintain a shipping route to the US for marijuana. but cocaine and heroin can't be grown and processed in a closet so there is big money to be made and people will make sure that those shipping lanes are open to their cartel and no one else.
picture #9....including one decorated with the golden image of San Judas Tadeo, the patron saint of desperate cases and lost causes...how the F can you tell? It looks the same as any other saint dudeman.
Extortion - Not a long-term or high volume way of doing business. Drug cartels would have to down-size immensely and any violence or loss of property that results is going to be WAY less even if there is more violence per incidence of extortion than there is of a shipment of drugs being smuggled in. This is unsustainable.Gambling - People have so many legal alternatives to gambling it's just not realistic except as a legitimate gambling enterprise, in which case they'd go somewhere and set up a casino where it's already legal.Prostitution - What does a network of people who smuggle small items have to do with prostitution? Maybe the lowest level people, but there are only so many places and only so much demand for hookers and only so many people who actually have the talent and desire to pimp. There are dozens and dozens of drug dealers for every pimp on the streets and if even a couple of them started cutting into business they'd all lose tremendous profit and they might as well do something legitimate.No matter what criminal enterprise you think these people will turn to, nothing out there is as accessible as the war on drugs, requiring nothing more than willing criminals who don't even need to be horrible people - they transport drugs and supply a demand, they don't directly harm anyone.Large organizations will have no alternative besides legitimizing for the sort of power their leader's crave and the street-level people will get left behind with nowhere to go and the mid-level people won't have much anywhere to use their smuggling skills except maybe other countries until they also legalize, which won't everywhere happen until crime is practically non-existent, or maybe it simply never will in certain states like china and the middle eastern countries as long as they exist in their current forms. But even if these other countries did legalize it all these people with the skills and connection to smuggle small items through specific channels can't possibly use them all up. There's nothing that interesting to smuggle at such high volume. Weapons are best sold to warring African countries, and in the US we can get guns legally anyway and criminals can get guns from people who can get them legitimately without even having them smuggled. There's no way weapons are as profitable to smuggle. There's simply nothing that can be smuggled consistently, that can be manufactured, grown, stolen or diverted on such a massive scale.Locally, drug cartels would just cut everyone off unless they could find something highly lucrative that requires the presence of unskilled, flaky people in the ghettos of the US. Then what will these street-level people do? Nothing, they'll get s**tty jobs, live off welfare or become homeless.Or maybe they'll join gangs, but you know what, gangs thrive due to DRUGS, they would all get caught quickly by doing amateur robberies/extortion. Gangs would go out of business so fast without drugs, what are they going to do? Rob all the same stores? Those stores have to profit some or they will just shut down and move, so they're still profitable. Rob rich people? Good luck, rich people can fight back with their own private investigators and police influence. Become contract killers? They're not spies, the most notorious contract killers on the streets always killed other drug dealers and gang members. They're not talented enough to deal with high value targets carefully and nobody would hire them for fear of being caught.The skills are not transferable and those who are unskilled may try other forms of crime, fail miserably and even in the collateral damage of all that it is unreasonable to assume that comparing these to the grand scale of the drug war that it could worsen the suffering of innocent bystanders.You f**king lunatic doomsayers are killing people. None of this s**t you think is going to happen has happened in Portugal which has decriminalized drugs INCLUDING cocaine and heroin.All these brilliant f**king people are telling you that the drug war hurts us and there's even more evidence all the time that these drugs aren't as bad as they were portrayed to be at the very time these drug laws were made. And you think that if legalizing drugs would create all these horrible costs to society that these same intelligent people would continue to fight to keep drugs legal everywhere in the face of empirical evidence? The f**king arrogance and ignorance.Smart people can get drugs no matter their legality, safely, and with little damage to their bottom line. It's the not-so-smart people who need the drug education so they don't die from an allergic reaction, taking too much acetaminophen, mixing drugs, or go to prison for being a little reckless with their freedom. But there is always a risk and drugs would be even cheaper legal, so yeah, there are selfish reasons too, but the bottom line is millions of lives are ruined every year because families are broken up and innocent people go to prison. People become collateral damage of a war that causes tremendous damage.Legalizing drugs makes people safer in so many more ways as well as eliminating the vast majority of criminal enterprise's primary source of income.If only the majority of the people in the US weren't faith-head idiots who were fooled by transparent high school drug propaganda and even the marginally intelligent ones weren't such sheep. God damnit people, you're all f**king MURDERING people with your UNFOUNDED beliefs and lack of moral reprehension at the war on drugs.
SpeedSteam.... "Live Free or Die" that's a noble concept "Live High While Others Die" is not. You can say ALL you want about civil disobedience....and by all means try to change the laws, that's great, that's what our country is founded on. But directly or indirectly supporting the drug cartel by using it's product...and thus supporting death...I don't know man, I'm glad I don't have that on my hands. (or lungs for that matter)
If you do drugs, you are responsible for the violence. Period. The laws are not the problem, it is those who sponsor the violence that are. I think it's time you diggjunkies take some responsibility for the killings you have caused.
andyroo316Mar 16, 2009
<a class="user" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01367/Cuidad-Juarez-bodi_1367112i.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/ar ...</a>I honestly thought you mistook those for joints at first. My bad.
majordannyboyMar 17, 2009
pot isn't the problem... cocaine and heroin is what drives the drug trade. Marijuana can be grown anywhere and cured anywhere. there is no need to have people killed in order to maintain a shipping route to the US for marijuana. but cocaine and heroin can't be grown and processed in a closet so there is big money to be made and people will make sure that those shipping lanes are open to their cartel and no one else.
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shortypeopleMar 18, 2009
picture #9....including one decorated with the golden image of San Judas Tadeo, the patron saint of desperate cases and lost causes...how the F can you tell? It looks the same as any other saint dudeman.
insolentMar 18, 2009
Extortion - Not a long-term or high volume way of doing business. Drug cartels would have to down-size immensely and any violence or loss of property that results is going to be WAY less even if there is more violence per incidence of extortion than there is of a shipment of drugs being smuggled in. This is unsustainable.Gambling - People have so many legal alternatives to gambling it's just not realistic except as a legitimate gambling enterprise, in which case they'd go somewhere and set up a casino where it's already legal.Prostitution - What does a network of people who smuggle small items have to do with prostitution? Maybe the lowest level people, but there are only so many places and only so much demand for hookers and only so many people who actually have the talent and desire to pimp. There are dozens and dozens of drug dealers for every pimp on the streets and if even a couple of them started cutting into business they'd all lose tremendous profit and they might as well do something legitimate.No matter what criminal enterprise you think these people will turn to, nothing out there is as accessible as the war on drugs, requiring nothing more than willing criminals who don't even need to be horrible people - they transport drugs and supply a demand, they don't directly harm anyone.Large organizations will have no alternative besides legitimizing for the sort of power their leader's crave and the street-level people will get left behind with nowhere to go and the mid-level people won't have much anywhere to use their smuggling skills except maybe other countries until they also legalize, which won't everywhere happen until crime is practically non-existent, or maybe it simply never will in certain states like china and the middle eastern countries as long as they exist in their current forms. But even if these other countries did legalize it all these people with the skills and connection to smuggle small items through specific channels can't possibly use them all up. There's nothing that interesting to smuggle at such high volume. Weapons are best sold to warring African countries, and in the US we can get guns legally anyway and criminals can get guns from people who can get them legitimately without even having them smuggled. There's no way weapons are as profitable to smuggle. There's simply nothing that can be smuggled consistently, that can be manufactured, grown, stolen or diverted on such a massive scale.Locally, drug cartels would just cut everyone off unless they could find something highly lucrative that requires the presence of unskilled, flaky people in the ghettos of the US. Then what will these street-level people do? Nothing, they'll get s**tty jobs, live off welfare or become homeless.Or maybe they'll join gangs, but you know what, gangs thrive due to DRUGS, they would all get caught quickly by doing amateur robberies/extortion. Gangs would go out of business so fast without drugs, what are they going to do? Rob all the same stores? Those stores have to profit some or they will just shut down and move, so they're still profitable. Rob rich people? Good luck, rich people can fight back with their own private investigators and police influence. Become contract killers? They're not spies, the most notorious contract killers on the streets always killed other drug dealers and gang members. They're not talented enough to deal with high value targets carefully and nobody would hire them for fear of being caught.The skills are not transferable and those who are unskilled may try other forms of crime, fail miserably and even in the collateral damage of all that it is unreasonable to assume that comparing these to the grand scale of the drug war that it could worsen the suffering of innocent bystanders.You f**king lunatic doomsayers are killing people. None of this s**t you think is going to happen has happened in Portugal which has decriminalized drugs INCLUDING cocaine and heroin.All these brilliant f**king people are telling you that the drug war hurts us and there's even more evidence all the time that these drugs aren't as bad as they were portrayed to be at the very time these drug laws were made. And you think that if legalizing drugs would create all these horrible costs to society that these same intelligent people would continue to fight to keep drugs legal everywhere in the face of empirical evidence? The f**king arrogance and ignorance.Smart people can get drugs no matter their legality, safely, and with little damage to their bottom line. It's the not-so-smart people who need the drug education so they don't die from an allergic reaction, taking too much acetaminophen, mixing drugs, or go to prison for being a little reckless with their freedom. But there is always a risk and drugs would be even cheaper legal, so yeah, there are selfish reasons too, but the bottom line is millions of lives are ruined every year because families are broken up and innocent people go to prison. People become collateral damage of a war that causes tremendous damage.Legalizing drugs makes people safer in so many more ways as well as eliminating the vast majority of criminal enterprise's primary source of income.If only the majority of the people in the US weren't faith-head idiots who were fooled by transparent high school drug propaganda and even the marginally intelligent ones weren't such sheep. God damnit people, you're all f**king MURDERING people with your UNFOUNDED beliefs and lack of moral reprehension at the war on drugs.
ngaaihMar 19, 2009
SpeedSteam.... "Live Free or Die" that's a noble concept "Live High While Others Die" is not. You can say ALL you want about civil disobedience....and by all means try to change the laws, that's great, that's what our country is founded on. But directly or indirectly supporting the drug cartel by using it's product...and thus supporting death...I don't know man, I'm glad I don't have that on my hands. (or lungs for that matter)
Closed AccountMar 26, 2009
If you do drugs, you are responsible for the violence. Period. The laws are not the problem, it is those who sponsor the violence that are. I think it's time you diggjunkies take some responsibility for the killings you have caused.
myksNov 25, 2009
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