dreamlinux.com.br— Georgeous XFCE based distro Dreamlinux 2.0. Includes all the apps you'd expect OO, Firefox and more. It's so polished it shines!
Jul 17, 2006View in Crawl 4
It's not about whether or not it affects people. Of course it doesn't and we all KNOW it doesn't. As for bashing, most of the not-positive comments aren't bashing (unless your definition of bashing is "comments contrary to what I or my neighbour might believe"). They're simply comments pointing out how whoever put this together hasn't done a very good job of emulating the OSX look. After all, digg is user driven and you're (quite rightly) going to get all sorts of comments. Don't just label the unfavourable ones as "bashing" cos that's simply untrue.One might also suggest YOU get over it. And btw, nobody's commenting on the OS as DreamLinux isn't an OS, it's a DISTRIBUTION of an OS and we're commenting on how it's not a very good attempt at emulating the OSX look.
I've been roaming the Linux Universe for 3 years. I'm tired of the religious open source crap that spews forth from the Linux community. I prefer the more simpler FreeBSD approach to open source. Linux will never be mainstream until they learn than people just want an OS that works and requires little intervention from them - and when I mean people and mean most everybody from professionals to amateurs. Why should I care if the code is open source just as long as I get my work done. Great! Its open source that should be good for PROGRAMERS! The average computer user isn't going to fix code in a program if they don't like something. No! they're are just going to find another program that they think is better. Proof of concept right here at Digg in the story about "10 Unknown Windows freeware Apps......" Open source fanatics were mentioning the problems with the slowness of OO (Open Office) and mention that Abiword was better. Why don't you ever here " Yea, I love open source I just went into source code modified my OO so that in ran faster". Because the ideology behind open source only work for a select geeky few who usually end up as developers for the computer program anyway. I'm a Graphic Artist. The work I do is considered a Profession. I am considered by many of my friends as computer savvy. I survive a long time in windows without knowing deep low level OS knowledge and never had a single virus despite the fact that I use and surf the lnternet regularly. I get the occassional adware/spyware that sneaks through but with the proper software the problem is easily solved and never have experience the crashes that everybody cries about. If I apply the same security to my Mac as I do my Windows I doubt there would be any Linux Distro that could be more secure than my Mac without becoming overkill and sacrifice usability. Open Source is great idea but doesn't need to be advertise or at the forefront of the reason why people should switch to Linux. Plus, open souce software can be written for OSX or Windows - Its not OS specific. As a matter of fact, we Apple Computer users should hold our heads down in a sense because we at one time (during the Apple II era) really embraced freeware. Open Source is just evolutionary step from Freeware but instead of carrying the tradition on in the Macintosh the idea just faded away and was reborn in the form of Open Source and Linux. Personally, I don't like the idea of just anybody rummaging around operating system's source code anyway - there is no gaurantee that whoever finds a problem is going to fix and report or use it for some evil scheme. Besides, you really think everybody has a say in what goes on in the Linux Kernel or Open source Software you're living in a dream world. Most features and goals are controlled and picked by a select group. Features, goals, and philosophies are controlled sometimes by just one or two individuals while the rest do the dirty work of coding. Oh, you can submit ideas, but that doesn't mean the selected few will implement them. I really don't see the difference from Propriety OSes in this regards. Apple has had a proven track record of listening to its customer base and implementing requests and Microsoft's record, although not as good, is slowly getting better. However, there is no gaurantee that any, OS or Linux Distro, will comply no matter how many requests for changes or additions are placed.A good analogy behind the philosophies OSes is comparing them to Shopping at a Hardware store for Lawnmowers. The OSes/Distros are the Lawnmowers. Now when I go shopping for a lawnmower, I generally find the three most common lawnmower brands on the market: Apple, Microsoft, and Linux. With the Apple and the Microsoft mowers people purchase them put oil and fuel in them and they're off to mow the lawn - with the microsoft mower needing a bit more tender loving care the Apple lawnmower. Not with Linux mowers, you get the mower in pieces or parts. The manual says that you'll get satisfaction in putting together your lawnmower from scratch by understanding how each part works and integrates with each other. Strangely, when I put my Linux mower together, mowing the lawn doesn't feel much different than mowing the Lawn with my Apple or Microsoft branded mower. Satisfying, maybe to a do-it-yourselfer or lawnmower mechnanic, but to the rest of us it seems to be a lot of work to get the same results. Lawnmowers often have the ability for attachments to give them added functionality sort of like OSes/Distros. Linux and Apple do a great job with added software with Linux usually providing more useful programs and a better value. This would be equivanlent to lawnmowers with a automatic choke or power assisted movement on the engine. Apple usually has a thoughfully pick amount while Linux gives you the World sometimes more than the average person actually needs. However, both Linux and Apple lack behind Windows in the Hardware. What? Linux fanboys say! Linux has better Hardware detection by far. I don't disagree with you its just that it doesn't do any good to have great hardware detection when the Operating system doen't configure automatically or at all. For instance, I have a AK5370 usb mic for almost two years has been autodetected by Linux but never has worked because I always have to dig into the configuration files and configure it myself. This is just one example There are many more. All you have to do is go to any Linux Distro Forum and you can read all the hardware sob stories. Its amazing how many things don't work in one Linux Distro but does in another yet it all supposedly from the same OS and the source code is supposedly open and available for use elsewhere. That's like buying an attachment made for a Linux mower (like a bag attachment) but my neighbor who also has a Linux mower can't seem to get the bag work on his. I can't count the number of times I've tried a new version of a Linux Distro only to find that it was buggier than the last version I used. I stop using SimplyMempis because of this. Lately though, Mempis has started winning me back so there is still hope for my once favorite distro especially if it applies its philosophy to the Ubuntu Distro. I believe their OS philosophy better matches what people want from a OS than Ubuntu. I also like the fact that they're not so hung up on the open source religion including propriety formats inorder to give better service to their user base better rather than preach a philosophy - like Ubuntu. I end up having to do mundane work to make ubuntu usable that could be better spent doing other stuff. There other Linux distros that are not as open source preachy as Ubuntu, Red Hat, or OpenSuse. I feel people really want functionality and ease of use over Philosophy.Personally, I think Linux blew it when they could have taken . People are claiming that Novell is first to truly produce a 32bit Linux distro that will match and even exceed Windows XP in functionality and desing (SLED10). Woop ti doo! We've been using XP for years and if you spend as much time learning Windows as it takes to Learn Linux you can run Windows Programs and surf the net with very little issues. Call me Linux fanboys when Linux has switch entirely to 64bits including mainstream Software Programs and I don't need chroot to 32bit just to run something - 32 bit computing is dead. Call me when you actually have a Desktop that isn't a rip off of something else (I'm keeping a keen eye on Symphony a linux distro - people should check it out. Still very much in beta but the desktop is very innovative (hope they will do a 64bit version as well). That's what Linux distros should not be doing poor Apple knock offs like we see in Dreamlinux using XFCE or others using Gnome. I also hate the Window XP/98 knock offs as well (like KDE or IceWM).But despite my grumblings about the Religion of Linux. I still have an affinity for Free stuff. If you like Free stuff too then it never hurts to try out Linux Distros. You never know when that one Distro will break the mold and be the OS that addresses everything from setup, hardware detection, software installation, to giving us no fuss solutions to doing things on ours computers we have already come to expect them to do.
Well it is the default theme for XFCE 4.4beta1, I've since moved to beta2 which looks a little cleaner theme wise. I'm also using XFCE's xcomposite manager.
It's the standard XFCE Task Bar, but if you people would take a little time and give it a live workout on your computer you'd find that it's very simple to exchange it for the Engage Dock that is where Apple got the whole animated dock idea in the first place. It's the Enlightment Window Manager that is also on "eLive Linux"! Enlightment is where many Desktop ideas were stolen from and it was the first Desktop to sport an animated desktop in the first place. The eLive Linux has many innovations that Apple is yet to steal. Like full 3-D Animated Login! Control Panel and 3-D icons that are animated because they are SVG icons. Not gifs or flash, but the Future of the Web and Computer Desktop Environments!When Microsoft and Apple come out with Live CD/DVD Free Installs of their systems, then you may be able to compare. But the Future of Operating Systems lies in the amount of people world wide that it is exposed to. Guess What? Linux wins hands down. Because from the Most Powerful Computer in the World, IBM Blue Gene/L to your PDA or Cell Phone is run on Linux. Of the Top 500 Super Computers over 80% run Linux. Over 90% of all HPCC (High Performance Commuting Clusters) including the one at DARPA run Linux! The PS3 uses Linux in it Hypervisor! It will also have a custom full Linux install with Xgl! For every PS3 sold (projected in the millions) that's one edition of Windows Vista NOT! Somewhere in your house today you own something that runs on Linux whether it's your Tivo or HD-TV, etc....! Linux is in your Future whether you know it or not! ;D
hikerJul 18, 2006
It's not about whether or not it affects people. Of course it doesn't and we all KNOW it doesn't. As for bashing, most of the not-positive comments aren't bashing (unless your definition of bashing is "comments contrary to what I or my neighbour might believe"). They're simply comments pointing out how whoever put this together hasn't done a very good job of emulating the OSX look. After all, digg is user driven and you're (quite rightly) going to get all sorts of comments. Don't just label the unfavourable ones as "bashing" cos that's simply untrue.One might also suggest YOU get over it. And btw, nobody's commenting on the OS as DreamLinux isn't an OS, it's a DISTRIBUTION of an OS and we're commenting on how it's not a very good attempt at emulating the OSX look.
torandwatJul 18, 2006
since the site is busy showing itself off to the rest of the world... ;)does anyone here know how it handles wlan & wpa?
dragonopolisJul 19, 2006
I've been roaming the Linux Universe for 3 years. I'm tired of the religious open source crap that spews forth from the Linux community. I prefer the more simpler FreeBSD approach to open source. Linux will never be mainstream until they learn than people just want an OS that works and requires little intervention from them - and when I mean people and mean most everybody from professionals to amateurs. Why should I care if the code is open source just as long as I get my work done. Great! Its open source that should be good for PROGRAMERS! The average computer user isn't going to fix code in a program if they don't like something. No! they're are just going to find another program that they think is better. Proof of concept right here at Digg in the story about "10 Unknown Windows freeware Apps......" Open source fanatics were mentioning the problems with the slowness of OO (Open Office) and mention that Abiword was better. Why don't you ever here " Yea, I love open source I just went into source code modified my OO so that in ran faster". Because the ideology behind open source only work for a select geeky few who usually end up as developers for the computer program anyway. I'm a Graphic Artist. The work I do is considered a Profession. I am considered by many of my friends as computer savvy. I survive a long time in windows without knowing deep low level OS knowledge and never had a single virus despite the fact that I use and surf the lnternet regularly. I get the occassional adware/spyware that sneaks through but with the proper software the problem is easily solved and never have experience the crashes that everybody cries about. If I apply the same security to my Mac as I do my Windows I doubt there would be any Linux Distro that could be more secure than my Mac without becoming overkill and sacrifice usability. Open Source is great idea but doesn't need to be advertise or at the forefront of the reason why people should switch to Linux. Plus, open souce software can be written for OSX or Windows - Its not OS specific. As a matter of fact, we Apple Computer users should hold our heads down in a sense because we at one time (during the Apple II era) really embraced freeware. Open Source is just evolutionary step from Freeware but instead of carrying the tradition on in the Macintosh the idea just faded away and was reborn in the form of Open Source and Linux. Personally, I don't like the idea of just anybody rummaging around operating system's source code anyway - there is no gaurantee that whoever finds a problem is going to fix and report or use it for some evil scheme. Besides, you really think everybody has a say in what goes on in the Linux Kernel or Open source Software you're living in a dream world. Most features and goals are controlled and picked by a select group. Features, goals, and philosophies are controlled sometimes by just one or two individuals while the rest do the dirty work of coding. Oh, you can submit ideas, but that doesn't mean the selected few will implement them. I really don't see the difference from Propriety OSes in this regards. Apple has had a proven track record of listening to its customer base and implementing requests and Microsoft's record, although not as good, is slowly getting better. However, there is no gaurantee that any, OS or Linux Distro, will comply no matter how many requests for changes or additions are placed.A good analogy behind the philosophies OSes is comparing them to Shopping at a Hardware store for Lawnmowers. The OSes/Distros are the Lawnmowers. Now when I go shopping for a lawnmower, I generally find the three most common lawnmower brands on the market: Apple, Microsoft, and Linux. With the Apple and the Microsoft mowers people purchase them put oil and fuel in them and they're off to mow the lawn - with the microsoft mower needing a bit more tender loving care the Apple lawnmower. Not with Linux mowers, you get the mower in pieces or parts. The manual says that you'll get satisfaction in putting together your lawnmower from scratch by understanding how each part works and integrates with each other. Strangely, when I put my Linux mower together, mowing the lawn doesn't feel much different than mowing the Lawn with my Apple or Microsoft branded mower. Satisfying, maybe to a do-it-yourselfer or lawnmower mechnanic, but to the rest of us it seems to be a lot of work to get the same results. Lawnmowers often have the ability for attachments to give them added functionality sort of like OSes/Distros. Linux and Apple do a great job with added software with Linux usually providing more useful programs and a better value. This would be equivanlent to lawnmowers with a automatic choke or power assisted movement on the engine. Apple usually has a thoughfully pick amount while Linux gives you the World sometimes more than the average person actually needs. However, both Linux and Apple lack behind Windows in the Hardware. What? Linux fanboys say! Linux has better Hardware detection by far. I don't disagree with you its just that it doesn't do any good to have great hardware detection when the Operating system doen't configure automatically or at all. For instance, I have a AK5370 usb mic for almost two years has been autodetected by Linux but never has worked because I always have to dig into the configuration files and configure it myself. This is just one example There are many more. All you have to do is go to any Linux Distro Forum and you can read all the hardware sob stories. Its amazing how many things don't work in one Linux Distro but does in another yet it all supposedly from the same OS and the source code is supposedly open and available for use elsewhere. That's like buying an attachment made for a Linux mower (like a bag attachment) but my neighbor who also has a Linux mower can't seem to get the bag work on his. I can't count the number of times I've tried a new version of a Linux Distro only to find that it was buggier than the last version I used. I stop using SimplyMempis because of this. Lately though, Mempis has started winning me back so there is still hope for my once favorite distro especially if it applies its philosophy to the Ubuntu Distro. I believe their OS philosophy better matches what people want from a OS than Ubuntu. I also like the fact that they're not so hung up on the open source religion including propriety formats inorder to give better service to their user base better rather than preach a philosophy - like Ubuntu. I end up having to do mundane work to make ubuntu usable that could be better spent doing other stuff. There other Linux distros that are not as open source preachy as Ubuntu, Red Hat, or OpenSuse. I feel people really want functionality and ease of use over Philosophy.Personally, I think Linux blew it when they could have taken . People are claiming that Novell is first to truly produce a 32bit Linux distro that will match and even exceed Windows XP in functionality and desing (SLED10). Woop ti doo! We've been using XP for years and if you spend as much time learning Windows as it takes to Learn Linux you can run Windows Programs and surf the net with very little issues. Call me Linux fanboys when Linux has switch entirely to 64bits including mainstream Software Programs and I don't need chroot to 32bit just to run something - 32 bit computing is dead. Call me when you actually have a Desktop that isn't a rip off of something else (I'm keeping a keen eye on Symphony a linux distro - people should check it out. Still very much in beta but the desktop is very innovative (hope they will do a 64bit version as well). That's what Linux distros should not be doing poor Apple knock offs like we see in Dreamlinux using XFCE or others using Gnome. I also hate the Window XP/98 knock offs as well (like KDE or IceWM).But despite my grumblings about the Religion of Linux. I still have an affinity for Free stuff. If you like Free stuff too then it never hurts to try out Linux Distros. You never know when that one Distro will break the mold and be the OS that addresses everything from setup, hardware detection, software installation, to giving us no fuss solutions to doing things on ours computers we have already come to expect them to do.
pdiddleJul 19, 2006
Well it is the default theme for XFCE 4.4beta1, I've since moved to beta2 which looks a little cleaner theme wise. I'm also using XFCE's xcomposite manager.
monarkSep 20, 2006
It's the standard XFCE Task Bar, but if you people would take a little time and give it a live workout on your computer you'd find that it's very simple to exchange it for the Engage Dock that is where Apple got the whole animated dock idea in the first place. It's the Enlightment Window Manager that is also on "eLive Linux"! Enlightment is where many Desktop ideas were stolen from and it was the first Desktop to sport an animated desktop in the first place. The eLive Linux has many innovations that Apple is yet to steal. Like full 3-D Animated Login! Control Panel and 3-D icons that are animated because they are SVG icons. Not gifs or flash, but the Future of the Web and Computer Desktop Environments!When Microsoft and Apple come out with Live CD/DVD Free Installs of their systems, then you may be able to compare. But the Future of Operating Systems lies in the amount of people world wide that it is exposed to. Guess What? Linux wins hands down. Because from the Most Powerful Computer in the World, IBM Blue Gene/L to your PDA or Cell Phone is run on Linux. Of the Top 500 Super Computers over 80% run Linux. Over 90% of all HPCC (High Performance Commuting Clusters) including the one at DARPA run Linux! The PS3 uses Linux in it Hypervisor! It will also have a custom full Linux install with Xgl! For every PS3 sold (projected in the millions) that's one edition of Windows Vista NOT! Somewhere in your house today you own something that runs on Linux whether it's your Tivo or HD-TV, etc....! Linux is in your Future whether you know it or not! ;D