macrumors.com— Rumors suggest that Apple is developing Dharma, an engine to allow mac apps written in Cocoa to run under Windows.
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Either way, this is risky for Apple. Several here seem to think Windows apps on Mac OS X are a smart move -- but I don't think it is, at all. See: OS/2. Windows had nothing on OS/2, but beat it out of the market, in the end. Why? Because any Win16 app ran on OS/2, so why write a specific version of your app for (the vastly superior, 32-bit) OS/2, when you can write one version that will run on both? Who cares if it's crappy, 16-bit Win 3.1 crap. It'll run on both!Apple would be in exactly the same situation if they let Windows apps run on Mac OS X. Nobody would write squat for OS X -- they'd just tell you to run the Windows app on OS X. Then Microsoft would rev. their OS every month, with a tweak to break the Mac windows emulator. And Apple would have to try and chase the ever-changing Windows API in order to keep all their customers (now using scores of Windows apps) happy.Nope, Apple does not want to be anywhere near Windows apps on Mac.In reverse, Apple does not have nearly as much to lose, but they are still primarily a hardware company, so it's not clear that they'd have much to gain, either. But maybe. Who knows.
I think this would be a great innovation for the industry. I think there are more USEFUL and FREE apps for Mac OS X then there are for Windows. So many libraries and programs for Mac have been made from open source projects (like Adium, Handbrake, Safari, etc). It would be sweet to be able to use those programs on Windows.
I know I'm still way off subject here, then again who knows maybe I'm right on more than anyone knows. I've never heard anyone ever, I really mean ever mention that the computer in the hatch just so happens to be an Apple computer. I'm thinking it's likely an Apple IIe, but still an Apple none the less. If this article is in fact a rumor, I have a very sneaky suspicion that the Lost tie in is likely deliberate. If this is indeed a rumor, could this article be a key of what's yet to come on Lost? I'm too tired to think at the moment, but can anyone draw any parallels between this article and Lost's past present and future?
The Darwine project intends to port and develop WINE as well as other supporting tools that will allow Darwin and Mac OS X users to run Windows Applications, and to provide a Win32 API compatibility at application source code level. <a class="user" href="http://darwine.opendarwin.org/">http://darwine.opendarwin.org/</a>
Certainly, the investment required to write a fully OSX application would be more justifiable if that same application were essentially fully compatible with Windows/Intel. Might make certain companies, particularly Quark and Adobe, happy. And Apple has already basically dumped their OS for the Darwin open source project, so it shouldn't be too surprising if they decide to attract more developers for their frameworks by porting them to other OSes, including Windows, and thus make their hardware more useful.
kamizuDec 8, 2005
@ Majin_Raditzexactly what i was about to say. that would be oh-so-much-more useful
rspeedDec 8, 2005
This could very well be true. NeXT had a "Yellow Box for NT." Yellow Box is what became Cocoa in Rhapsody and OS X when Apple bought NeXT. I can't really see what motivation Apple would have for bringing this back, but it's certainly possible.<a class="user" href="http://www.shawcomputing.net/resources/apple/os_pictures/ybnt4/start-menu-ybnt4.html">http://www.shawcomputing.net/resources/apple/os_pictures/ybnt4/start-menu-ybnt4.html</a>
orangetikiDec 8, 2005
Why? If they do that, then they should also think about just selling the OS for windows users. Give them the total package
electronicmajiDec 8, 2005
yeah apparently Lost is just a big new marketing campaign for Apple...
teeceDec 8, 2005
Either way, this is risky for Apple. Several here seem to think Windows apps on Mac OS X are a smart move -- but I don't think it is, at all. See: OS/2. Windows had nothing on OS/2, but beat it out of the market, in the end. Why? Because any Win16 app ran on OS/2, so why write a specific version of your app for (the vastly superior, 32-bit) OS/2, when you can write one version that will run on both? Who cares if it's crappy, 16-bit Win 3.1 crap. It'll run on both!Apple would be in exactly the same situation if they let Windows apps run on Mac OS X. Nobody would write squat for OS X -- they'd just tell you to run the Windows app on OS X. Then Microsoft would rev. their OS every month, with a tweak to break the Mac windows emulator. And Apple would have to try and chase the ever-changing Windows API in order to keep all their customers (now using scores of Windows apps) happy.Nope, Apple does not want to be anywhere near Windows apps on Mac.In reverse, Apple does not have nearly as much to lose, but they are still primarily a hardware company, so it's not clear that they'd have much to gain, either. But maybe. Who knows.
a1lostnomadDec 8, 2005
I think this would be a great innovation for the industry. I think there are more USEFUL and FREE apps for Mac OS X then there are for Windows. So many libraries and programs for Mac have been made from open source projects (like Adium, Handbrake, Safari, etc). It would be sweet to be able to use those programs on Windows.
ugm2099Dec 8, 2005
"wow im surpised at the number of lost fans here...im a huge one...check out lost-media.com"LOST RULES!** SPOILER ALERT **I CANT WAIT FOR JAN 11th!!
aslaDec 8, 2005
It is absolutely necessary that someone replaces the swan in LOST's Dharma logo with the apple.
phoenixfuryDec 9, 2005
I know I'm still way off subject here, then again who knows maybe I'm right on more than anyone knows. I've never heard anyone ever, I really mean ever mention that the computer in the hatch just so happens to be an Apple computer. I'm thinking it's likely an Apple IIe, but still an Apple none the less. If this article is in fact a rumor, I have a very sneaky suspicion that the Lost tie in is likely deliberate. If this is indeed a rumor, could this article be a key of what's yet to come on Lost? I'm too tired to think at the moment, but can anyone draw any parallels between this article and Lost's past present and future?
bigcakeDec 9, 2005
The Darwine project intends to port and develop WINE as well as other supporting tools that will allow Darwin and Mac OS X users to run Windows Applications, and to provide a Win32 API compatibility at application source code level. <a class="user" href="http://darwine.opendarwin.org/">http://darwine.opendarwin.org/</a>
istravinskiMar 15, 2006
Certainly, the investment required to write a fully OSX application would be more justifiable if that same application were essentially fully compatible with Windows/Intel. Might make certain companies, particularly Quark and Adobe, happy. And Apple has already basically dumped their OS for the Darwin open source project, so it shouldn't be too surprising if they decide to attract more developers for their frameworks by porting them to other OSes, including Windows, and thus make their hardware more useful.
wshadowJul 2, 2008
Looks like these rumors haven't materialized :/<a class="user" href="http://convertflvtoavi.com/">http://convertflvtoavi.com/</a>