The NSA Directory is sporting one of those "I am right and you should get over it" moments. Oh, the arrogance caught on video tape for "millions" to see for years. This video should be filed with Senators who fight for the 10 commandments but, don't know them and congressional Republicans can't play soft ball with Democrats (thanks Daily Show).
@slantyeyedYour comments == projectionNo serious person uses the Daily Show or the Colbert Repor(t) as a primary news source, though, ironically, they do a better job at filling the traditional role of journalism (to critique .gov) than actual journlists.Just ask Tucker Carlson, who got fired from CNN after he got 0wn3d by John Steward debating this exact point.
Well put, OaklandNative.I would add, though, that the very first question is whether what the government is doing constitutes a "search" - and the test for that is whether a person has a reasonable expectation of privacy. If a person does not have a reasonable expectation of privacy, then the government action is not considered a search and the govenrment, therefore, does not have to comply with any standard in conducting the action. If a person does have a reasonable expectation of privacy, then the government activity is considered a search, and that search must be done reasonably - i.e., with a warrant, supported by probable cause, or in exigent circumstances, without a warrant, but still supported by probable cause - generally.This is why the NSA Guy was right and the reporters were wrong.
At first I was tempted to laugh when I watch this, but then I realized. This guys is supposed to know what he is doing. He's an integral part of our nation's security and, on this tape, he sounds like a moron. Not good.
"Except they have chosen (like you) to ignore the probable cause part."If a search is reasonable, you can ignore the probable cause part. That's the whole point.
A search has to be reasonable in all cases to be constitutional. It does not have to have probable cause to be constitutional. Reasonable searches almost always have probable cause, but the bottom line is reasonableness.
For some reason I don't believe that learning about, and following, the United States Constitution is anywhere on the NSA's to-do list. Which is sad. Oh well, all good things must come to an end I suppose :(
bullrunJun 24, 2006
The NSA Directory is sporting one of those "I am right and you should get over it" moments. Oh, the arrogance caught on video tape for "millions" to see for years. This video should be filed with Senators who fight for the 10 commandments but, don't know them and congressional Republicans can't play soft ball with Democrats (thanks Daily Show).
deepsubJun 25, 2006
@slantyeyedYour comments == projectionNo serious person uses the Daily Show or the Colbert Repor(t) as a primary news source, though, ironically, they do a better job at filling the traditional role of journalism (to critique .gov) than actual journlists.Just ask Tucker Carlson, who got fired from CNN after he got 0wn3d by John Steward debating this exact point.
tortfeasorgJun 25, 2006
Well put, OaklandNative.I would add, though, that the very first question is whether what the government is doing constitutes a "search" - and the test for that is whether a person has a reasonable expectation of privacy. If a person does not have a reasonable expectation of privacy, then the government action is not considered a search and the govenrment, therefore, does not have to comply with any standard in conducting the action. If a person does have a reasonable expectation of privacy, then the government activity is considered a search, and that search must be done reasonably - i.e., with a warrant, supported by probable cause, or in exigent circumstances, without a warrant, but still supported by probable cause - generally.This is why the NSA Guy was right and the reporters were wrong.
brotherjJun 25, 2006
At first I was tempted to laugh when I watch this, but then I realized. This guys is supposed to know what he is doing. He's an integral part of our nation's security and, on this tape, he sounds like a moron. Not good.
Closed AccountJun 25, 2006
"Except they have chosen (like you) to ignore the probable cause part."If a search is reasonable, you can ignore the probable cause part. That's the whole point.
oaklandnativeJun 25, 2006
smoke and mirrors
dorkaforkJun 25, 2006
A search has to be reasonable in all cases to be constitutional. It does not have to have probable cause to be constitutional. Reasonable searches almost always have probable cause, but the bottom line is reasonableness.
karamba_kidJun 28, 2006
For some reason I don't believe that learning about, and following, the United States Constitution is anywhere on the NSA's to-do list. Which is sad. Oh well, all good things must come to an end I suppose :(