direct2dell.com— "Before we announce the availability of Ubuntu 7.04 on select Dell client systems, I'd like to give an overview of what customers can expect from our initial Ubuntu offering."
May 21, 2007View in Crawl 4
@Spr0k3tHere's an example:Every time I have installed a fresh Ubuntu or Kubuntu, I have fired up the one default installed package manager, and it has contained a limited subset of packages - most packages - including Firefox - were missing from the package listings.I would install Synaptic, and there is Firefox.Maybe I did something wrong, I dont know - but this has been the case with every Ubuntu or Kubuntu install I have done.
@TheTankengine (#6809721)Here's an honest question, then...Is it better to tell a person who is using Ubuntu for the first time, "Oh, just open a terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'" or to tell them, "Well, it's quite simple. Go to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager and search for 'kubuntu.' There should be a package called 'kubuntu-desktop,' click the box and Mark it for Installation."If you tell them the former, they are helping themselves out by learning the terminal, and it's faster.If you tell them the latter, the GUI way, they'll probably feel more comfortable and not so hesitant about other things.So which way is better?
@malachaiI totally agree with you on the importance of that question. People just have some hatred against the terminal (but not registry keys, don't know why), but even for new users, I think terminal is better. The reason I think GUI is good as well is for two reasons; it makes the user feel confident (they can't say Linux sucks no GUI) and it is good if you have no instructions and no knowledge of terminal.
phocion55:I'm in a similar case to you. I had always thought of ubuntu as 'overly simplistic' and not for 'real' linux users. I first tried ubuntu with 6.06, and I'm now also 50/50 ubuntu/gentoo. Feisty is wonderful - works perfectly on my laptop and desktop. The one thing that (imo) gentoo got right was multiarch for amd64. It was great not having to worry if the program was 64bit or 32bit. I'm still trying to find something like that for ubuntu x64 =/.
oobuntuMay 22, 2007
how about this?insert blade runner DVDVLC hangs system at 100% CPUswitch to console to pkill -9 vlcthis is a newly installed feisty - what gives?
brundlefly76May 22, 2007
@Spr0k3tHere's an example:Every time I have installed a fresh Ubuntu or Kubuntu, I have fired up the one default installed package manager, and it has contained a limited subset of packages - most packages - including Firefox - were missing from the package listings.I would install Synaptic, and there is Firefox.Maybe I did something wrong, I dont know - but this has been the case with every Ubuntu or Kubuntu install I have done.
eteepellMay 22, 2007
Open source drivers. Better drivers for the BSDs, for ReactOS, etc.etc.etc.
makarioMay 22, 2007
@TheTankengine (#6809721)Here's an honest question, then...Is it better to tell a person who is using Ubuntu for the first time, "Oh, just open a terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'" or to tell them, "Well, it's quite simple. Go to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager and search for 'kubuntu.' There should be a package called 'kubuntu-desktop,' click the box and Mark it for Installation."If you tell them the former, they are helping themselves out by learning the terminal, and it's faster.If you tell them the latter, the GUI way, they'll probably feel more comfortable and not so hesitant about other things.So which way is better?
daradibMay 23, 2007
@malachaiI totally agree with you on the importance of that question. People just have some hatred against the terminal (but not registry keys, don't know why), but even for new users, I think terminal is better. The reason I think GUI is good as well is for two reasons; it makes the user feel confident (they can't say Linux sucks no GUI) and it is good if you have no instructions and no knowledge of terminal.
wolf08May 23, 2007
phocion55:I'm in a similar case to you. I had always thought of ubuntu as 'overly simplistic' and not for 'real' linux users. I first tried ubuntu with 6.06, and I'm now also 50/50 ubuntu/gentoo. Feisty is wonderful - works perfectly on my laptop and desktop. The one thing that (imo) gentoo got right was multiarch for amd64. It was great not having to worry if the program was 64bit or 32bit. I'm still trying to find something like that for ubuntu x64 =/.
benplautMay 23, 2007
*kicks*