debian.org— The next release of the Debian Project's Linux distribution will run on AMD's AMD64 processors for the first time, according to the organisation's Web site.
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What we're all forgetting here is:1) x86_64 is a fairly lame technology in general, improving instruction density in only a very few applications. It doesn't benchmark much higher than x86_32 even with 64-bit optimized code, and runs 32-bit code exactly the same (or worse if it's switching modes often)2) x86_64 is supported in Intel CPUs all the way down to crappy Celeron, while AMD reserves it for higher-bin CPUs. So let's stop calling it AMD64 just because AMD issued a press-release about it first. This sort of feature takes years to design & validate, and AMD "announced it" a few weeks before Intel did. That's just silly PR, since they announced it before any commercially available OS could use it.ARG.
Yes, Ubuntu is based on Debian Etch (currently 'testing'), which has supported AMD64 for a while now. All this article means is when Debian does another official release, Etch will become the 'stable' release of Debian and we'll get a new codename for the 'testing' release.Yes, x86_64 == AMD64 == EM64T
people take forever accepting new ideas about tech even if they are feasible this requires almost no ...yeah no special needs people or company's that don't follow these ideas fall behind. 64bit is something that needs to take place the fact that m$ is not active as they should be makes me sick. people want faster machines not new computers and developers aren't doing their jobs. know all we need are faster hard drives and a way to stop memory leaks and we can get what we need.
Regardless of my opinions of your opinions, you have restated the reason there is more than one Linux distribution.Keep that in mind next time some Microsoft apologist tries to yell "fragmentation" in a crowded board room.
stevemaxJul 26, 2006
Finally! I mean, for a multi-arch distro, supporting a new major architecture AFTER Windows did so is kinda lame.
nysusJul 26, 2006
Umm, excuse me, I've been running debian sarge on my server dual chip AMD64 server since October 2005.
mdcdatlinJul 26, 2006
What we're all forgetting here is:1) x86_64 is a fairly lame technology in general, improving instruction density in only a very few applications. It doesn't benchmark much higher than x86_32 even with 64-bit optimized code, and runs 32-bit code exactly the same (or worse if it's switching modes often)2) x86_64 is supported in Intel CPUs all the way down to crappy Celeron, while AMD reserves it for higher-bin CPUs. So let's stop calling it AMD64 just because AMD issued a press-release about it first. This sort of feature takes years to design & validate, and AMD "announced it" a few weeks before Intel did. That's just silly PR, since they announced it before any commercially available OS could use it.ARG.
naktekhJul 26, 2006
Yes, but they're talking about native Debian 64-bit support here, not 32-bit mode.
nekoJul 26, 2006
Yes, Ubuntu is based on Debian Etch (currently 'testing'), which has supported AMD64 for a while now. All this article means is when Debian does another official release, Etch will become the 'stable' release of Debian and we'll get a new codename for the 'testing' release.Yes, x86_64 == AMD64 == EM64T
Closed AccountJul 26, 2006
people take forever accepting new ideas about tech even if they are feasible this requires almost no ...yeah no special needs people or company's that don't follow these ideas fall behind. 64bit is something that needs to take place the fact that m$ is not active as they should be makes me sick. people want faster machines not new computers and developers aren't doing their jobs. know all we need are faster hard drives and a way to stop memory leaks and we can get what we need.
curthowlandJul 26, 2006
Regardless of my opinions of your opinions, you have restated the reason there is more than one Linux distribution.Keep that in mind next time some Microsoft apologist tries to yell "fragmentation" in a crowded board room.
rattusJul 26, 2006
yeah. welcome to where everyone else has been for a year, debian.
joebotJul 26, 2006
I believe SuSE 8 was the first amd64 Linux distro.
nofingclueJun 26, 2007
i'm compiling a realtime amd64 kernel right now, on a fresh installed desktop done with the newest net install cd.