desktoplinux.com — I recently decided to retire Red Hat 7 after seven years of loyal service as a firewall/router-OS on my home LAN. Like a red-headed stepchild grown old, it had become cranky from extended neglect, and no longer would even shutdown or reboot without issuing nasty messages.
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schestowitzDec 13, 2006
Elive might be a better example. MEPIS has recently become a Ubuntu derivative, which makes it aDebian's granadchild (or an in-law).
rshakinDec 13, 2006
Hehe I run love my debian install on my sun ultra 5... I've tried it all, freebsd netbsd and redhat for sparc. And I have to say that Debian Stable Run's like a champ on my web server hosting my blog. Specs of the system along with the story <a class="user" href="http://rubicon.merseine.nu/misc-stuff/system/">http://rubicon.merseine.nu/misc-stuff/system/</a> 13:09:06 up 78 days, 22:05, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.10, 0.02USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHATrshakin pts/0 netblock-72-25-8 13:05 0.00s 0.24s 0.04s w
coolbruDec 13, 2006
Installing Ubuntu form live took a Dell Inspiron 8200/2.4/512 around 12 hours of constant HD thrashing. No idea why. The alternate CD installed in about 40 mins, and though text only, was easier. I also installed XP on it, and I was quite pleasantly surprised at the installer (I'm not a regular Windows user); it actually looked better, was easier and installed faster than Ubuntu.Normally I use Ubuntu or Debian on servers, OS X on the desktop.
stonekeeperDec 14, 2006
I dont know what this guy was doing wrong but ubuntu server has worked first time on all HW configurations I've chucked at it....
dragDec 14, 2006
It depends. Probably what you would want to do is use pinning to use Testing, but have packages aviable from stable and unstable.Right now I would not track 'testing', I'd track 'Etch' and live with stable for a while until I got tired of it.For a while after stable, maybe for a few months, I'd just keep using 'Etch' then upgrade to testing pinned with Unstable and stable aviable as repositories, then track that version until it gets released as stable. Rinse and repeat. I like unstable, but for most stuff it has a lot of churn. It gets tiresome.Ah f-it. I'll probably just keep tracking unstable. But my point is that there is a lot of different things you can do depending on your temperment.Also in the future I don't expect nearly the same level of breakage. The two major things were the XFree to X.org transition. Previously upgrading between XFree releases was traumatic, but having a modular X has solved most of that problem. Now the last upgrade from 7.0 to 7.1 was smooth as silk.The other big horror that happenned was the C++ ABI breakage by moving up to GCC 4.x land. That sucked for KDE users. But it's the nature of C++ this sort of crap happens. But I have a feeling that GCC 4.x.x is going to be around for a long, long time and I don't expect the same thing to happen.Also it's worth pointing out for people who may want to use Debian as a desktop that Ubuntu is a snapshot of Debian unstable + modified/newer Gnome and X.org along with a bucketload of kernel patches. So using Debian Unstable will actually provide newer stuff then most of what you'd get with Ubuntu (since Unstable is a moving target)
shadusDec 14, 2006
or switch to one of the more current branches of debian, since that's basically what you're doing by going to ubuntu *shrug*.
Closed AccountDec 14, 2006
he installed apache without a sql server? people still use sites that aren't database driven?