thinkprogress.org— On CBS's Face the Nation, Colin Powell disagreed with Bob Gates' assessment that the U.S. is neither winning nor losing in Iraq. "We are losing," Powell said.
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I used to respect Powell. Now, all I can think of when I see him is - Where were you 4 years ago??? He chose to play the "good solider" instead of the "good American" during his time with Bush Co.
I totally agree with you, but you have to take into account what Bush and Cheney think about dissenting opinions in their inner-circle, if he spoke out against the plan, they'd probably stone him to death. Granted he still should have been open about what he thought, but it's not surprising that he may very well have been muzzled by those around him.
it is just so pathetically immature and stupid to look at the disastrous situation in Iraq in terms of the US winning or losing! The criminals who took over the US government are killing hundreds of thousands of people, mostly civilians....and gutting the US constitution, based upon the spreading of irrational fears by the corporate owned media.The losers here are all the American people, all the rest of the world, and especially all those poor families of Iraqi people who were destroyed by the bombs and bullets used by the fool Bush, instead of reason and decency.Bush and his criminal friends are making a lot of money from this. I hope justice prevails eventually!
No, "they" didn't all see the same intelligence. "But the claim that the administration and Congress saw the same intelligence ignores several important facts. First, taking into account assessments such as the Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB), the White House typically has access to more intelligence than does Congress -- and indeed, this was the case with prewar intelligence on Iraq. Second, the Bush administration began making claims about the Iraqi threat months before Congress received any substantial intelligence analysis. And third, the administration received information directly from alternative intelligence sources, specifically the since-discredited Office of Special Plans and Iraqi National Congress."Much more here: <a class="user" href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200511080006">http://mediamatters.org/items/200511080006</a>
Powell had numerous chances to 'do the right thing' and failed to - every time. Everytime he has left a position of influence he claims that he would have done it differently but the deck was stacked against him...He has no sympathy from me at this point. He stands as an accomplice to their crimes - Crimes against humanity and the constitution - in my mind.
hawkeye17Dec 17, 2006
I used to respect Powell. Now, all I can think of when I see him is - Where were you 4 years ago??? He chose to play the "good solider" instead of the "good American" during his time with Bush Co.
amishrefugeeDec 18, 2006
I totally agree with you, but you have to take into account what Bush and Cheney think about dissenting opinions in their inner-circle, if he spoke out against the plan, they'd probably stone him to death. Granted he still should have been open about what he thought, but it's not surprising that he may very well have been muzzled by those around him.
Closed AccountDec 18, 2006
I wish I could digg you up more than once for that. Powell is a politician first and foremost.
Closed AccountDec 18, 2006
Powell and Bush enjoy 69ing each other. And you all vote for him! Tisk tisk.
waterdragonDec 18, 2006
it is just so pathetically immature and stupid to look at the disastrous situation in Iraq in terms of the US winning or losing! The criminals who took over the US government are killing hundreds of thousands of people, mostly civilians....and gutting the US constitution, based upon the spreading of irrational fears by the corporate owned media.The losers here are all the American people, all the rest of the world, and especially all those poor families of Iraqi people who were destroyed by the bombs and bullets used by the fool Bush, instead of reason and decency.Bush and his criminal friends are making a lot of money from this. I hope justice prevails eventually!
spock627corfuDec 18, 2006
No, "they" didn't all see the same intelligence. "But the claim that the administration and Congress saw the same intelligence ignores several important facts. First, taking into account assessments such as the Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB), the White House typically has access to more intelligence than does Congress -- and indeed, this was the case with prewar intelligence on Iraq. Second, the Bush administration began making claims about the Iraqi threat months before Congress received any substantial intelligence analysis. And third, the administration received information directly from alternative intelligence sources, specifically the since-discredited Office of Special Plans and Iraqi National Congress."Much more here: <a class="user" href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200511080006">http://mediamatters.org/items/200511080006</a>
mrdctaylorDec 18, 2006
Obama/Powell '08?
turbodiggDec 18, 2006
...there goes colin powell again, stating the obvious.
rabidsquirrelogDec 19, 2006
Powell had numerous chances to 'do the right thing' and failed to - every time. Everytime he has left a position of influence he claims that he would have done it differently but the deck was stacked against him...He has no sympathy from me at this point. He stands as an accomplice to their crimes - Crimes against humanity and the constitution - in my mind.