talk2action.org — Based on the best-selling Left Behind novels, you play a foot soldier in a paramilitary group whose purpose is to convert or kill Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, gays, and anyone who advocates the separation of church and state - especially moderate Christians. Shows Christian Fundamentalists to be no better than their Islamic counterparts.
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Closed AccountMay 30, 2006
It'd be funny if it gets a MP mod. We could let the Muslims, Jews and Christians fight it out online and whoever wins gets Palestine.
Al-xMay 30, 2006
I just finished Rick Warrens Purpose Driven Life. There is nothing in there about "killing infedels", on the contrary he speaks of approching people with another faith with respect. I don't see the connection.
Closed AccountMay 30, 2006
@adharrisWell... I am a former Christian. I didn't stop believing, but I do not trust ANY religion that claims to know "the one true god". I find religion to be a tool for power. It is used by the cunning to control the less intelligent. In the end it's always about wealth and power no matter what the religious adherents say on the surface. This video game is simply another power grab by a subset of real christians. That is, real christians are people who use the religion to control others to their benefit. Whether it's money, political power or some other desire, that's all real christians are about. You are not a real christian if you don't understand or believe this.To put it another way, it's like AmWay. If you join up, they claim you can make it big if you just sell the stuff. But EVERYONE who has a brain knows this isn't true. If you buy their products and live with them from day to day, you're not going to make money. If you try to rope your friends and family into buying AmWay products, you're not going to make money. The only way you're going to make money is by getting other people to join AmWay under you. Then when they get a little fed up with not being able to sell stuff, you tell them, "I think you're ready to be a regional sales director" and you get them to get others to sign up under them (indirectly underneath you). Yes. A pyramid scam. That's all EVERY religion amounts to eventually. I don't care if you're catholic, protestant, islamic, jewish, what have you. That's all it's really about in the end.So I advise anyone with a rational mind to leave your religion but retain your true and honest beliefs. Do what is right to others. This means that EVERYTHING you do must be evaluated for it's imact on others. EVERYTHING. Once you do that, you are truly on the good side of humanity.@everyone_elseWHY is this a buried story? Does some assh**e at Digg have a political agenda? If so, f**k you assh**e.
bunnyman1May 30, 2006
Bart: I got one!Todd: No, you only winged him and made him a Unitarian Universalist.
njankMay 31, 2006
"the Christians (a la Jack Thompson) that are insanely fundamentalist are not what make up the Christian faith as a rule, but that how it appears due to the fact that crazy idiots like him get more press coverage then the Christians that preach acceptance, tolerance and love."replace Christian with Islam in the above sentence, and you get another perfectly valid statement.
greazmachineMay 31, 2006
Two things to note, (somewhat reiterating BigColby's comments):1) According to an ABC News report, the game penalizes you for killing2) This is a game based on a fictitious series of novels and is set in the "End Times" (or at least the developers' views on the timing and nature of such a period, which by the way is not by any means a view held by or agreed upon among the majority of Christians)As a Christian, I agree that this game should never have been made and I think it will mostly be remembered for the easy ammo it provided for anyone against "Christianity". I think this game will confuse and distort the true message of Christianity; that Jesus claimed to be God in the flesh, He brutally died for the sins of all in order to provide forgiveness to those that choose to accept Him through faith, which results in eternal salvation and a changed life which is marked by agape (unselfish love) for God and others. However, I think it wise to reserve final judgment until we see how this video game actually plays out.
suppazoneJun 7, 2006
@cawpinEnglish is not my native tounge - I'm not sure what yours is or what your nationality is, I can only guess....
jhutsonJun 8, 2006
The game developers describe Left Behind: Eternal Forces as the ultimate battle of absolute good versus absolute evil, where ultimately, all the "neutral" characters must choose the side of either Christ or the AntiChrist. Ultimately, the neutral characters must either convert or be killed, and that is explicitly stated on the game developer's web site, as well as in reviews published by journalists who have played the game. The winning condition for the game is to eliminate all your opponents. The player must maintain a certain level of "spirit points" to continue fighting, but the concern is to be able to continue fighting. The first essay in the three-part series on Talk to Action clearly states that players lose "spirit points" by killing neutral parties, but that these may be quickly regained by taking a timeout for prayer. (To offer a rough analogy concerning the nature of "spirit points," let's imagine a knight-on-a-mission game, in which the knight must kill the ogre to get through the mountain pass and save the princess. While fighting the ogre, the knight's strength is sapped. But after he kills the ogre, he drinks an elixer to restore "strength points." Then the knight continues his mission, killing as necessary to get to and rescue Her Excellency.) In the thread above, LawLSUVA wrote: "When I read where it said that Christians say "Praise the Lord" when they kill unbelievers, I knew that the author has to be stretching the truth. There is NO way that a "Christian" game will have that in it. Oh, and all recent Splinter Cell's are rated M, not Teen as the author suggests."LawLSUVA does not know what he is talking about, and did not carefully read the three essays in the Talk to Action series. The Los Angeles Times reported that characters shout "Praise the Lord!" as they blow infidels away, and the link to the article is given by Talk to Action. And the fact is that Amazon.com still offers a version of Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory rated T for Teen, as has been noted in an update to the first essay in the series. But LawLSUVA is just tossing out straw man arguments -- purposely misrepresenting statements and sidestepping the main arguments on Talk to Action without actually rebutting them.
gamepraiseAug 31, 2006
There are many Chrisitan games out there and some are not so great but there are a lot of newer ones that look really awesome. This site <a class="user" href="http://www.gamepraise.net">http://www.gamepraise.net</a> has a lot of information on these type of games.
mom2giqmDec 30, 2008
We've played the game...it's nothing like the description in this article.