eetimes.com— Cryptographer Adi Shamir, "a cellphone has all the ingredients you need to conduct an attack and compromise all the RFID tags in the vicinity".
Feb 15, 2006View in Crawl 4
The rfid readers that are on every street corner that can scan the tags in everybody's clothing or on their cars. A database cross references the codes with who bought the product. Voila, people tracking.
Oh yeah, and to add to the ASU guy - how many hot chicks at High Schools and Colleges have their Name, Address and Phone number embedded in their RFID school ID card that you can read out of their purse by just walking by them or with an amplified reader from across the street?
"So if I buy some jeans for my teenage daughter, this becomes part of MY rfid profile? Seems kinda flawed since not everything you buy is for yourself. I'm more concerned about the ID theft if it can be exploited more easily through this technology. Guess I will need to read up on this some more."This is where you begin the possibility of tracking relationships. For example assume your daughter purchased shoes for herself on her atm, your wife bought her shirt on her cc, you purchased her pants and she's wearing a necklace from her boyfriend. Now as soon as she walks into WalMart (largest pusher for RFID tags in retail) and is scanned, all these relationships can be assumed. As more data is gathered (thanks ChoicePoint - www.choicepoint.com) the assumptions will become more and more accurate.
> As more data is gathered (thanks ChoicePoint - www.choicepoint.com) > the assumptions will become more and more accurate....or more delusional.I live in a country where it is impossible for me to get a loan and my credit rating is so poor in my "home" country that even my mother would laugh at me if I were to ask for a loan....still, you would have a extremely hard time convencing the person that I brought my house from that I'm a credit risk.> "So if I buy some jeans for my teenage daughter, this becomes> part of MY rfid profile?No, it becomes an entry point by which she can be tracked.... I assume that she's the type of girl the wears cloths when she buys things.
Corporations want RFID tags so they can streamline their inventory checks. Supermarkets want them so they can have instant checkouts. That's all fine, but I think they could get around all the fuss if they didn't attempt to hide the RFID tags. If they were easily removed and attached to bright orange stickers then everybody would be happy. I think, though, that stores see these as part of a theft deterrent, also, so that's why they want to hide them. Hiding the tags is what causes all the alarm. As far as using RFID tags to keep track of people, that is mostly a lame argument. I say that because most of us already carry around a device that is able to transmit a unique id more than a mile. That device is our cell phones. I also carry around a two way pager, another device that could be used to track my movements. Using triangulation, those devices could track our movements from miles away. Not true with RFID tags, which only transmit a few feet. If the gummint or someone else wants to track our movements, we've already given them what they need to do it, so that concern about RFID tags doesn't hold water.
schwitFeb 15, 2006
The rfid readers that are on every street corner that can scan the tags in everybody's clothing or on their cars. A database cross references the codes with who bought the product. Voila, people tracking.
chicagobikerFeb 15, 2006
Oh yeah, and to add to the ASU guy - how many hot chicks at High Schools and Colleges have their Name, Address and Phone number embedded in their RFID school ID card that you can read out of their purse by just walking by them or with an amplified reader from across the street?
ghorseyFeb 16, 2006
"So if I buy some jeans for my teenage daughter, this becomes part of MY rfid profile? Seems kinda flawed since not everything you buy is for yourself. I'm more concerned about the ID theft if it can be exploited more easily through this technology. Guess I will need to read up on this some more."This is where you begin the possibility of tracking relationships. For example assume your daughter purchased shoes for herself on her atm, your wife bought her shirt on her cc, you purchased her pants and she's wearing a necklace from her boyfriend. Now as soon as she walks into WalMart (largest pusher for RFID tags in retail) and is scanned, all these relationships can be assumed. As more data is gathered (thanks ChoicePoint - www.choicepoint.com) the assumptions will become more and more accurate.
Closed AccountFeb 16, 2006
> As more data is gathered (thanks ChoicePoint - www.choicepoint.com) > the assumptions will become more and more accurate....or more delusional.I live in a country where it is impossible for me to get a loan and my credit rating is so poor in my "home" country that even my mother would laugh at me if I were to ask for a loan....still, you would have a extremely hard time convencing the person that I brought my house from that I'm a credit risk.> "So if I buy some jeans for my teenage daughter, this becomes> part of MY rfid profile?No, it becomes an entry point by which she can be tracked.... I assume that she's the type of girl the wears cloths when she buys things.
sstidmanFeb 16, 2006
Corporations want RFID tags so they can streamline their inventory checks. Supermarkets want them so they can have instant checkouts. That's all fine, but I think they could get around all the fuss if they didn't attempt to hide the RFID tags. If they were easily removed and attached to bright orange stickers then everybody would be happy. I think, though, that stores see these as part of a theft deterrent, also, so that's why they want to hide them. Hiding the tags is what causes all the alarm. As far as using RFID tags to keep track of people, that is mostly a lame argument. I say that because most of us already carry around a device that is able to transmit a unique id more than a mile. That device is our cell phones. I also carry around a two way pager, another device that could be used to track my movements. Using triangulation, those devices could track our movements from miles away. Not true with RFID tags, which only transmit a few feet. If the gummint or someone else wants to track our movements, we've already given them what they need to do it, so that concern about RFID tags doesn't hold water.
blackflagFeb 16, 2006
And they want to put these RFID tags in our passports?<a class="user" href="http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/11/5/5010/82876">http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/11/5/5010/82876</a>
Closed AccountFeb 16, 2006
Solution: (... kind of) <a class="user" href="http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/208/48/">http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/208/48/</a>
Closed AccountFeb 16, 2006
Solution: (... kind of) <a class="user" href="http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/208/48/">http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/208/48/</a>