examiner.com — The cap-and-trade bill that passed the House and is still pending in the Senate will increase food prices by 4.5 percent by 2050 by encouraging landowners to re-forest 59 million acres of farmland by that time. SecAg Tom Vilsack knows it and now wants to hide that inconvenient truth.
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klingon00Dec 30, 2009
@NoLib: You try justifying to the poor why their dollar won't buy as much food and tell them it's a good thing while they starve. And please don't try to justify tyranny and shredding the constitution here. It's like killing the patient to cure the disease. And the people who diagnosed the disease have been shown to be incompetent at best and liars at worst.
stormkrowDec 30, 2009
Pot. Kettle. Kettle. Pot.No chips. It's not partisan rage.I'll back anything I say with fact unlike many people on Digg and I don't throw around insults simply to "one up" someone. Now that is what is childish. Kinda like calling someone a douche bag. My rage is solely for the conservatives and the conservative view point. It has brought nothing but misery and suffering to the world and it must be quashed completely.We don't live in 1956 anymore and we will never return there. The world is progressively moving around us while we bicker over how we enjoy or don't enjoy our serfdom living under the rule of the elite wealthiest 5%. The only way to break that rule is thru progressive liberal thinking and acting. That's the fight we should all be fighting rather than calling each other douche bags over misinformation spread by the paymasters that would have us bicker just long enough to look the other way.
Closed AccountDec 31, 2009
@zoomaKabu.Currently ONE avacado costs $2.19 at my grocery store. ONE! A Supersized quarterpounder with cheese, fries, coke costs $4.19...... Now you have a family of four and your wife/husband has been unemployeed for six months..... Sometimes it's just not as cut and dry as you want it to be..
Closed AccountDec 31, 2009
Well, maybe by then our Government will stop paying farmers NOT TO FARM their fields.....
serjoshDec 31, 2009
You are really not disputing anything I said. I believe it helps to add as many green technologies as possible. Please don't assume you know it all by putting words in my mouth. Green Tech is the future. But cripple current technologies is going to bring the economy crash down harder than it already has.That map might be to power houses but no way will it be enough to power automobiles. Sure they should be more efficient. It's not the best time to cripple the economy though. Thinking that cap and trade is going to help the power issue by burdening industries that help to offset high energy costs while we transition is frankly just naivety.
Closed AccountJan 1, 2010
@redbergy Founding fathers like Benjamin Franklin? The guy who created the government and community-funded fire dept, municipal police, postal and library systems? Or do you mean some select list of Founding Fathers who had no interest in what you have no interest in? I suspect you wouldn't know a Communist if it shook yer hand and wore a name tag. You don't want Goverment to pool tax money for the common good? What country are you living in? Your "anti-Communist" fantasy America resembles no such entity since the flag was stitched. FFS sake would you be without the FDA? Dead on the floor with a bottle of snake oil. Maybe people game the system, but I'm glad as hell for the system right now.
johnnysoftwareJan 1, 2010
The inevitable outcome of unchecked overpopulation is one or more of the following: war, pestilence, famine, or disease - just like an old religious text warned.Food prices would be lower if food crops were not being replaed with GM crops bio-engineered for use as fuel and other industrial purposes. The justification for lots of high yield produced for the past decade was it was needed to feed the starving people of the world. What happened to all that excess.There were totally non-violent, non-harmful means of population control available since 1980's and a huge faction opposed them for the developing nations. Now, they are suffering from: war, famine, pestilence, and disease.Is it so hard to pick the solution before the consequence?If the ocean crashes because of too much CO2, then people will not have enough air. Guess what? We are rapidly running out of fresh drinking water, oh, and in the US our public water supply for past several years, despite Clean Water Act, has been getting badly polluted across the nation.Economics do not really help you when you have used more resources than the planet has. Encouraging a drop of the population now will make for a soft landing but simply sending food/medicine is just leading to massive overpopulation which will have inimical consequences for everyone everywhere. Our assistance is massively out of whack and heavily geared towards creating massive overpopulation.
kasha34Jan 1, 2010
Food prices will only go up 4%? Can't be right.See, the whole purpose of cap 'n trade is to raise prices on everything that uses energy dramatically. So that you change you actions.Remember, Obama said that he had no trouble with $4/gal gas. He just wanted it to go up more gradually. Slip the knife in slowly Barry. He also stated that his policies would put the coal industry out of business!Once again: the purpose of cap 'n trade is to raise prices a lot.So that you stop driving. Stop running your a/c. Stop flying on vacation. Wear three sweaters at once all winter.Obviously, raising prices a few percent won't do that. So it cannot be true.
mercurychaosJan 23, 2010
The only reason why food is so cheap is because we're producing it as if we're never going to run out of land and resources. I suppose this guy would also argue that sweatshops are a good thing, since getting rid of them would increase the price of clothing.