arstechnica.com— At the Ubuntu Developer Summit in Barcelona, Canonical has unveiled a prototype Android execution environment that will allow Android applications to run on the Ubuntu Linux distribution.
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Now if only Google could go ahead and finish the damn SDK. Sure its great for most things, but the ultraparanoid hardware abstraction blows donkey balls. Maybe I WANT to crash my phone!
I'm not whining, as I've never had the problem as I am a fedora user.It looks as though Fedora has overcome a lot of these library problems by actually dealing with the problem rather than waiting for someone else to come along and fix it. I'd expect ubuntu to pick up a lot of these fixes in current +1 (maybe +2). <obvious troll> Don't worry Ubuntu will always be "cutting edge". </obvious troll>Your option C isn't too hard ( at least as far as I can tell as the Fedora guys have had it working for 6 months already), there might be some third party proprietary code in ubuntu which breaks hardOption E is just the slackers way out, pointing fingers is never the solution.Its obviously _not_ eclipses packaging problem, (since java is cross platform and my pointy haired managers keep telling me this) and it is working and packaged in Fedora. If the finger was to be pointed anywhere it should be at Ubuntu and its upstream doesn't have the engineering efforts to pull it off.
With all the new Android phones that will be released by 2010, I hope the Android Market will gain some additional developper love. Combine that with netbooks running Ubuntu Netbook Remix + Android apps that have multi-touch trackpads and/or screens, and everyone is happy!/fingers crossed
I like to write audio apps. I've got a few fun little VST plugins under my belt as well as some custom audio processing stuff.Try to write an app that has anything to do with sound synthesis using the exist Android SDK...oops...can'tSure, you can take advantage of hardware for rendering decent 3d graphics but for some strange reason they didn't decide to extend the audio capabilities of the hardware in the same way.Dont get me wrong, I love my G1...but I was really disappointed to see how weak the audio api's in the SDK are.
@lemur, you couldn't do "serious multitasking" on a Palm 5 years ago. Palm OS is a single-tasking OS, with only a handful of applications using some very ugly hacks to take over the CPU and pass control for some time to other applications. It was ugly, buggy, not in the OS, and not real multitasking; besides, only trivial applications (such as IRC and IM clients) did it.
@Mejogid - Thank you, you said it the best.It's because of the non-standard environment that porting to run on Ubuntu helps avoid any lock-in to Google with you applications. You would have the exact same thing as with the iPhone or Windows Mobile, no portability whatsoever without Ubuntu's interpretor.
@ warp99, sorry for my previous comment, I assumed you were part of the "let's destroy Android because it's unwanted by Microsoft" brigade.But, I have to point out, even with Mejogid's better explanation, Android is NOT proprietary to Google.Google is only in this to try and make a stand against OTHER proprietary attempts to high-jack web standards (flash, silverlight, etc.)
@mrbitchYes most of Andriod is released under the Apache license that's true, but the Ubuntu interpreter helps alleviate any remaining fears about the dreaded "lock-in" that the "Microsoft brigade" has been spouting.My original comment was actually poking fun at the "Microsoft brigade" since they're the ones who are afraid of the big bad Google. Tra la la la la!
piznutMay 26, 2009
Now if only Google could go ahead and finish the damn SDK. Sure its great for most things, but the ultraparanoid hardware abstraction blows donkey balls. Maybe I WANT to crash my phone!
ungamedplayerMay 27, 2009
I'm not whining, as I've never had the problem as I am a fedora user.It looks as though Fedora has overcome a lot of these library problems by actually dealing with the problem rather than waiting for someone else to come along and fix it. I'd expect ubuntu to pick up a lot of these fixes in current +1 (maybe +2). <obvious troll> Don't worry Ubuntu will always be "cutting edge". </obvious troll>Your option C isn't too hard ( at least as far as I can tell as the Fedora guys have had it working for 6 months already), there might be some third party proprietary code in ubuntu which breaks hardOption E is just the slackers way out, pointing fingers is never the solution.Its obviously _not_ eclipses packaging problem, (since java is cross platform and my pointy haired managers keep telling me this) and it is working and packaged in Fedora. If the finger was to be pointed anywhere it should be at Ubuntu and its upstream doesn't have the engineering efforts to pull it off.
Closed AccountMay 27, 2009
With all the new Android phones that will be released by 2010, I hope the Android Market will gain some additional developper love. Combine that with netbooks running Ubuntu Netbook Remix + Android apps that have multi-touch trackpads and/or screens, and everyone is happy!/fingers crossed
piznutMay 27, 2009
I like to write audio apps. I've got a few fun little VST plugins under my belt as well as some custom audio processing stuff.Try to write an app that has anything to do with sound synthesis using the exist Android SDK...oops...can'tSure, you can take advantage of hardware for rendering decent 3d graphics but for some strange reason they didn't decide to extend the audio capabilities of the hardware in the same way.Dont get me wrong, I love my G1...but I was really disappointed to see how weak the audio api's in the SDK are.
piattorneyMay 27, 2009
I like this story....its good stuff!
stevemaxMay 27, 2009
@lemur, you couldn't do "serious multitasking" on a Palm 5 years ago. Palm OS is a single-tasking OS, with only a handful of applications using some very ugly hacks to take over the CPU and pass control for some time to other applications. It was ugly, buggy, not in the OS, and not real multitasking; besides, only trivial applications (such as IRC and IM clients) did it.
truck87bpMay 27, 2009
Microsoft's bad days are growing.
Closed AccountMay 27, 2009
@Mejogid - Thank you, you said it the best.It's because of the non-standard environment that porting to run on Ubuntu helps avoid any lock-in to Google with you applications. You would have the exact same thing as with the iPhone or Windows Mobile, no portability whatsoever without Ubuntu's interpretor.
mrbitchMay 28, 2009
@ warp99, sorry for my previous comment, I assumed you were part of the "let's destroy Android because it's unwanted by Microsoft" brigade.But, I have to point out, even with Mejogid's better explanation, Android is NOT proprietary to Google.Google is only in this to try and make a stand against OTHER proprietary attempts to high-jack web standards (flash, silverlight, etc.)
Closed AccountMay 30, 2009
@mrbitchYes most of Andriod is released under the Apache license that's true, but the Ubuntu interpreter helps alleviate any remaining fears about the dreaded "lock-in" that the "Microsoft brigade" has been spouting.My original comment was actually poking fun at the "Microsoft brigade" since they're the ones who are afraid of the big bad Google. Tra la la la la!