arstechnica.com— Canadian DSL resellers learned the hard way this week that Bell Canada now runs traffic-shaping hardware even on the lines it resells.
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@smacksaw - although I have strong feelings about net neutrality, I can't say that I'm willing to base my entire vote on that one premise. I like having an economy, thus the NDP aren't a sustainable choice and the Liberals have totally screwed over the maritimes recently...
That was because iStop's business model involved racking up huge debt with Bell and only making the minimum payments. This isn't exactly news, it's fairly well known that they did this.
Ahh.. but Cogeco's bandwidth allotment is beyond a f**kin joke... so i chucked the morons months ago till they get a clue.Doesn't matter how fast they are if it's crippled by such a pathetic limit on bandwidth.Much the same as paying for a Ferrari etc.. and only being allowed to drive one city block per month.
There is only one way to stop this and that is the pocket book. As of Monday I will be contacting Bell and letting them know I am canceling my satellite, phone and cell phone contracts with them specifically because of this throttling BS.. Furthermore I will be doing my damnedest to convince all friends and family to do the same. They will back down.
I am deeply concerned about Bell Canada's recent announcement that it will make its practice of throttling official. I have felt the full effect of their throttling myself and I am not even one of their customers.Canada does not have strict enforceable net neutrality legislation and so there is very little structure in place to prevent the big ISPs from discriminating by speeding up or slowing down Web content based on its source, ownership or destination.I am being throttled at 10kbps, sometimes I can hit 60kbps. I am on ADSL with Radioactif, a reseller, and I used to be able to hit 405kbps in best conditions. Bell did not provide No warning, No penalties, No abuse notice. And they are throttling me. It's completely unacceptable. If it was in Europe, there would be Riots in the streets. Bell and all other major ISP are abusing their power and their customers that have no other alternative. It is an infringement of human rights. "Human rights are "basic rights and freedoms to which all humans are entitled." "All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and RIGHTS. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood." -Article 1They abuse their power to profit themselves and only themselves. The fact that I am not even one of their customer and I am being controlled, monitored and denied full access to what I am paying every month and am entitled to. What make it right to allow a reseller to sell me a service that the Network owner block at 10kbps. I'm paying for high speed. No download limits and pay 30$ a month for a service that is 1/3 a 9.99$ 56kbps Dial-up Connection. So I am paying 3 times the price for 30% of what I should be rightfully getting. I am literally getting robbed.Bell is using it's monopoly over DSL infrastructure to restrict competition in the industry. They also affect the broadcasting industry and the right to share free computer software. Freeware are open to everybody without discrimination. What purpose is it to have access to a Linux distribution when you cannot download it because it would take me Months to download a Free open source distribution when it could take me days, even hours at normal pace. Bell's alliances and vertical integration with software and broadcasting interests are a direct conflict of interest.I am outraged that Canada does not have a policy to protect my ability to communicate and access information freely on the Internet and urge everyone to take action on this matter immediately before it is too late. Sincerely,
timbertron3000Mar 27, 2008
@smacksaw - although I have strong feelings about net neutrality, I can't say that I'm willing to base my entire vote on that one premise. I like having an economy, thus the NDP aren't a sustainable choice and the Liberals have totally screwed over the maritimes recently...
offspring06Mar 27, 2008
Which is anti-competitive behavior and highly illegal.
guspazMar 27, 2008
That was because iStop's business model involved racking up huge debt with Bell and only making the minimum payments. This isn't exactly news, it's fairly well known that they did this.
kinjiruMar 28, 2008
Ahh.. but Cogeco's bandwidth allotment is beyond a f**kin joke... so i chucked the morons months ago till they get a clue.Doesn't matter how fast they are if it's crippled by such a pathetic limit on bandwidth.Much the same as paying for a Ferrari etc.. and only being allowed to drive one city block per month.
jugger74Apr 12, 2008
There is only one way to stop this and that is the pocket book. As of Monday I will be contacting Bell and letting them know I am canceling my satellite, phone and cell phone contracts with them specifically because of this throttling BS.. Furthermore I will be doing my damnedest to convince all friends and family to do the same. They will back down.
tysonsmithApr 14, 2008
Also anyone who is against traffic shaping can digg this story and fill out this form to help CAIP and support network neutrality <a class="user" href="http://digg.com/tech_news/Upset_about_bandwidth_throttling_FIGHT_BACK">http://digg.com/tech_news/Upset_about_bandwidth_th ...</a>
theedudeNov 28, 2009
I am deeply concerned about Bell Canada's recent announcement that it will make its practice of throttling official. I have felt the full effect of their throttling myself and I am not even one of their customers.Canada does not have strict enforceable net neutrality legislation and so there is very little structure in place to prevent the big ISPs from discriminating by speeding up or slowing down Web content based on its source, ownership or destination.I am being throttled at 10kbps, sometimes I can hit 60kbps. I am on ADSL with Radioactif, a reseller, and I used to be able to hit 405kbps in best conditions. Bell did not provide No warning, No penalties, No abuse notice. And they are throttling me. It's completely unacceptable. If it was in Europe, there would be Riots in the streets. Bell and all other major ISP are abusing their power and their customers that have no other alternative. It is an infringement of human rights. "Human rights are "basic rights and freedoms to which all humans are entitled." "All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and RIGHTS. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood." -Article 1They abuse their power to profit themselves and only themselves. The fact that I am not even one of their customer and I am being controlled, monitored and denied full access to what I am paying every month and am entitled to. What make it right to allow a reseller to sell me a service that the Network owner block at 10kbps. I'm paying for high speed. No download limits and pay 30$ a month for a service that is 1/3 a 9.99$ 56kbps Dial-up Connection. So I am paying 3 times the price for 30% of what I should be rightfully getting. I am literally getting robbed.Bell is using it's monopoly over DSL infrastructure to restrict competition in the industry. They also affect the broadcasting industry and the right to share free computer software. Freeware are open to everybody without discrimination. What purpose is it to have access to a Linux distribution when you cannot download it because it would take me Months to download a Free open source distribution when it could take me days, even hours at normal pace. Bell's alliances and vertical integration with software and broadcasting interests are a direct conflict of interest.I am outraged that Canada does not have a policy to protect my ability to communicate and access information freely on the Internet and urge everyone to take action on this matter immediately before it is too late. Sincerely,