gas2.org — 800-mile bullet-train system that will connect Sacramento, the San Francisco Bay Area, the Central Valley, Los Angeles, the Inland Empire, Orange County and San Diego. Trains traveling at 220 mph on the systems are forecast to carry up to 100 million passengers per year by 2030.
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Closed AccountMay 15, 2008
I heard about these plans years ago. It was actually supposed to go through the town where I used to live. I still hope it does. I only live 30 mins from there and have friends in LA that I would love to be able to visit more frequently. I just hope the cost isn't outrageous and only accessable to rich people.
messir10May 15, 2008
if it derails you live happily ever after
jp12380May 15, 2008
That is not what I'm getting at.What I'm getting at is that it is not a hassle in Japan to get on a train even a high speed one. Because of all the hassle that America would add to using this there would be almost no benefit to using it in the first place. Has nothing to do with how big America/California is.
ecommandoMay 16, 2008
Yeah, right. They've been building the bullet train from Long Beach to Las Vegas for the last 10 years.
arozMay 17, 2008
I am aware of that, but that falls very short what I had in mind. At least it won't be that expensive in the future since some of the infrastructure is there.
leesoongMay 18, 2008
Desert wild life have rights too!Don't be such a Species Bigot... Specist!I will light a scented candle for you and meditate upon your well being,so your soul will expand to embrace love and joy for all life forms in the Cosmos.
leesoongMay 18, 2008
This train will be the first step in the development of the Mega City: Los Francisco, with 2 Billion residents!
pulsar4Aug 6, 2008
We need more funding for high density metro lines like the LA Red-line and BART trains before we spread people out to Turlock, Lodi and Fresno. We need to get the 10 million in SF and 17 million in LA moving efficiently first. The red-line encourages high density growth, the trains encourage people to commute huge distances and waste more energy and gas (from Lodi to the bay area). The INTRA STATE trains are something we can do later after we finish building out the metro area commuting. We don't want to encourage Joe from the Central valley to commute to LA every day, because inevitably Joe is also going drive his car occasionally to LA. We should make it more difficult to commute from central valley to LA. I doubt I would ever take this bullet train, I will definitely take the red-line however.
pulsar4Aug 6, 2008
The california bullet tain isn't fully funded yet right, they got the intial 10billion, but what about the remaining $30-$50billion that hasn't been guaranteed from the FEDS yet. CA could easily be on the hook for funding the rest. CA is already in a budget crisis (I thought Schwarzenegger was going to fix that, hmmmm), how can we take on another $50billion in debt.We need more funding for high density metro lines like the LA Red-line and BART trains before we spread people out to low density Turlock, Lodi and Fresno. We need to get the 10 million in SF and 17 million in LA moving efficiently first. The red-line encourages high density growth, the trains encourage low density growth, by making it easy to commute huge distances and waste more energy and gas (from Lodi to the bay area). The intra-state trains are something we can do later after we finish building out the metro area commuting. We don't want to encourage Joe from the Central valley to commute to LA every day, because inevitably Joe is also going drive his car occasionally to LA. The central valley is already polluted enough why should we encourage more people to move there. We should make it more difficult to commute from central valley to LA. I doubt I would ever take this bullet train, I will definitely take the red-line however.
pulsar4Aug 6, 2008
The california bullet tain isn't fully funded yet right, they got the intial 10billion, but what about the remaining $30-$50billion that hasn't been guaranteed yet, they havent got it from the FEDs yet right?. CA could easily be on the hook for funding the rest. CA is already in a budget crisis (I thought Schwarzenegger was going to fix that, hmmmm), how can we take on another $30-$50billion in debt (cost overruns operating expenses?), thats 5 times the Gray Davis debt.We need more funding for high density metro lines like the LA Red-line and BART trains before we spread people out to low density Turlock, Lodi and Fresno. We need to get the 10 million in SF and 17 million in LA moving efficiently first. The red-line encourages high density growth, the trains encourage low density growth, by making it easy to commute huge distances and waste more energy and gas (from Lodi to the bay area). The intra-state trains are something we can do later after we finish building out the metro area commuting. We don't want to encourage Joe from the Central valley to commute to LA every day, because inevitably Joe is also going drive his car occasionally to LA. The central valley is already polluted enough why should we encourage more people to move there. We should make it more difficult to commute from central valley to LA. I doubt I would ever take this bullet train, I will definitely take the red-line however.
pulsar4Aug 6, 2008
The california bullet tain isn't fully funded yet right, they got the intial 10billion, but what about the remaining $30-$50billion that hasn't been guaranteed yet, they havent got it from the FEDs yet right?. CA could easily be on the hook for funding the rest. CA is already in a budget crisis (I thought Schwarzenegger was going to fix that, hmmmm), how can we take on another $30-$50billion in debt (cost overruns operating expenses?), thats 5 times the Gray Davis debt.We need more funding for high density metro lines like the LA Red-line and BART trains before we spread people out to low density Turlock, Lodi and Fresno. We need to get the 10 million in SF and 17 million in LA moving efficiently first. The red-line encourages high density growth, the trains encourage low density growth, by making it easy to commute huge distances and waste more energy and gas (from Lodi to the bay area). The intra-state trains are something we can do later after we finish building out the metro area commuting. We don't want to encourage Joe from the Central valley to commute to LA every day, because inevitably Joe is also going drive his car occasionally to LA. The central valley is already polluted enough why should we encourage more people to move there. We should make it more difficult to commute from central valley to LA. I doubt I would ever take this bullet train, I will definitely take the red-line however.