thinkprogress.org — Last night, the CBS Evening News turned their broadcast over to a man named Brian Rohrbough, who lost his son during the Columbine massacre. Mr. Rohrbough proceeded to blame recent school shootings on: 1) the teaching of evolution, and 2) abortion.
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debiguanaOct 3, 2006
@Heolint & PhantomRogue Re Creation / Timelines:Although the Bible states that there were 7 creative days, it elsewhere states that 1 day is as 1000 years to God. There are also other similar types of expressions (God referring to himself as having hands, etc, while in actuality a spirit creature).There are some who teach that the 7 days were literal, whereas it makes a lot more sense (and the fossil evidence supports) that the "days" were referenced such for the benefit of human understanding, and likely took much longer.As to the actual processes used by God, we barely understand DNA and the human brain, so how exactly could we understand if He explained such to us?A disclaimer here: I am a Christian. However, I am not bashing anyone, just presenting an alternative point of view that (IMHO) makes much more sense.
kebwiOct 3, 2006
But I need my firearm to protect myself from the British and manbearpig.
crownjewelOct 3, 2006
Interestingly enough I posted an argument along these lines on a forum earlier today. Basically I was just saying that parents don't spend enough time with their kids (for a number of reasons, many valid) and add that to people are less likely to teach their kids values that they might have learned in a spiritual context.Not saying that everyone should be a Christian or even religious, but just saying that things like forgiveness and kindness, which are tenants of Christianity, Buddhism, and a number of other faiths BTW, go a long way in preventing someone from turning into a mass murderer.Lord knows I would have been right there with those school shooters if I had access to a gun and not had a father constantly reminding me that people's actions were largely beyond my control and in the midst of finding peaceful solutions I should always be willing to forgive.A lot of people nowadays think forgiveness is wasted and that vengeance is the only way to go. If that's what adults think then what do kids think?Sure this guy's got some whacked ideas, but don't let his opinions on spirituality, evolution, and abortion cloud your view of what I think he's really trying to get at. Parents need to take responsibility for teaching their kids morals and values, not just how to deal with difficult situations but how to not cause difficult situations. If the parents won't or can't, then society as a whole needs to. It's true what they say, "It takes a village..."
dagonwebOct 3, 2006
So the US is committing suicide AND going psychotic? See if I care.
mrgreen4242Oct 3, 2006
"My point is that many, many people share this belief system. What’s your point, exactly?"That popular opinin does not equal fact, despite what the moral majority would like to believe.
walls1500Oct 4, 2006
@shaggtastic I'll give it a read, as I enjoy reading on this topic. However, my point was simple. I don't necessarily believe science reports simply because they were created by "scientists." I've known too many bad "scientists" and read far too many false reports to know better. However, I also don't outright reject all scientific research.On a topic this complex and misunderstood, a healthy amount of skepticism (on both sides) is warranted. In my opinion, you need to know and research those doing the research (and those refuting the research) to understand what they are trying to prove and what their underlying motivations might be.
phatt138Oct 5, 2006
goodold - I'm not actually, in any way, a Creationist. I range between agnosticism and Deism. However, I believe that if there -was- a God, the processes we see in nature would have been tailored and initiated by Him. Hence, I don't see evidence for the fundamentalist, Bible-based idea of Creation, but the concept of a Creator who put this in motion (NOT, however, some bearded guy who 'guides' the process, i.e. Intelligent Design) isn't beyond the range of plausibility. I just mean that if we get into Quantum physics, it's okay to think that there's some great Observer behind all of it, collapsing the universal wave function and creating reality from potentiality - but don't ignore factual evidence for the vague meanderings of an old book. In other words, if there IS a God, EVERYTHING that science discovers is merely a facet of His design - no holds barred for human hubris.
Closed AccountNov 23, 2006
Yes, like Cindy Sheehan, you retard. lol