I love how the Obama apologists try to justify his actions by saying "But, but, Bush did it too!" It's just sad trying to justify bad behavior by saying the last guy did it almost as bad. This is supposed to be an example of leadership? Change you can believe in... right.
A large motorcade may be normal for a president who dances and holds hands with the oil king of Saudi Arabia and who turned down the Kyoto treaty.Isn't it a teensy bit hypocritical that a president who wants to shove cap and tax down our collective throats and supports economic redistribution in the name of environmental justice to not at least try to improve his carbon footprint, at least a little bit? At least Carter put on a sweater when he claimed he turned down the thermostat in the white-house.But then again, Obama did bow deeply to the same king of Saudi Arabia... I guess Obama and Bush have a lot in common after all.
The President should cut down his security to make you happier? Well I guess Obama being less secure would bring joy to many of you knowing that the chance of him being attacked is better.
America is heavily in debt and the best you can reply is to waste more money on stupid pomp and ceremony. Extrapolate all the other government waste and think what if, what if something sensible and productive was actually created instead of waste. How many other government officials are so stupid they just waste and burn money. One day China will call in your debts, all those Chinese paying for this extravegence are asking everyday why they should be frugle so their debtors can spend money like its water while they bust their ass.This extire thing reminds me of i think the show is Criminal Minds, where the FBI agents travel from city to city in their own Lear Jet because Commercial airlines arent worth of them. Or perhaps i could highlight CSI Miami where every Cop there has a Hummer or Mercedes, all on a policemans wage..
So what angelic country do you hail from that can apparently do no wrong since you're devoting your time and energy to badmouthing my country?You're right, we've been far too imperialistic for our own good. I'll be the first to admit that. But don't peg these military actions on Obama. He didn't start them. He does have to finish them. We can't just leave Iraq and Afghanistan twisting in the wind. We saw back in the 80s exactly why you don't leave a war torn country to fend for itself when we abandoned Afghanistan."* What free country has started more wars and killed more people this century than all countries combined ?"Started more wars this century? Well...we didn't start either World War. Korea...nope didn't start that one. Vietnam...wasn't started by Americans either. Gulf War...nope. Afghanistan...yes we invaded, but I think we had a very good reason to go in. I think the only one you have a leg to stand on is Iraq Part 2. Are you going to try to blame the current administration for that boondoggle? We're winding that one down.As for who has killed the most people...I'd probably peg Stalin's Soviet Union with that one. He killed more people (mostly his own) than the Nazis did. "* How many trillions did they spend to bail out banks just so the bosses can give themselves bonuses."The bailouts of the banks was passed October 3rd, 2008. "They" , being the current administration, didn't assume power until January 20th, 2009. Also remember that Congress controls the purse strings here. I don't know where you're from or how it works where you live, but that's how we do things."* What happened to health care ?"It passed the House and is working its way through the Senate. It's not a single payer system, but its something. "* What happened to a fair trial for the Guitmo prisoners ?"You're not paying attention to world news, are you? If you are you would know that Khaled Sheikh Mohammed and 4 of his co-conspirators are being brought to New York City to stand trial before a federal court. Other Guantanamo Bay prisoners are either being released, or will be moved to facilities within the United States to await trial. Obama is under heavy fire from his opponents for bringing KSM to the states to stand trial in a civilian court. Had you any intention to hold intelligent debate you would have done the proper research, like read the front page of any American news website, it's right there for f**k's sake. Inform yourself next time and maybe, just maybe, you wont make such a fool out of yourself. "Whats the point of 30 cars in front and behind when you have at most one on either side ?"Ok, Mr. Security Expert. You go write the Secret Service and give them your plan to protect the president. I'm sure your short time being a keyboard commando outweighs their more than a century of experience in protecting the most powerful man on earth (they started protecting the president full time in 1902).
I delibrately stated this century to keep things current - Vietnam is last century and it was started by the USA. Keep focused and forget Stalin but if one goes back 50 years Americans have not got much to be proud of in terms of their foreign policy.You might want to also check out all the crooked dictators who were installed, backed or supplied by the USA. Many people in those lands, would not be praising America for its help, if anything you bring misery to more people than you help. You do realise that if you did not arm Iraq in the 80s and not object to their Kuwait ambitions the entire invasion may not have happened. Without any equipmentit would have been hard for Iraq to attack Iran and then Kuwait. Again i ask what common factor if removed would have prevented this situations ?Most of Western Europe has had health care for its citizens for many years, you still have not resolved the details. Strange priorities worrying about chasing Al Qaeda which were never a threat to the average American but you ignore healthcare. Brilliant.Obama may be new but in the end, what has really changed, the personnel in the various remain as can be seen by the status quo being kept in the majority of cases. What has really changed, so many major actions with a global highlight are moronic, this just highlights the sillyness of it all.About the Gitmo prisoners, it only took close to 10 years, how would you feel to be locked up for 10 years without charge ? They shouold have been charged and brought to trial the day after Obama came into power not over 1 year later. One would think that after 10 years all necessary evidence should have already been collated. What happened to JFK ?Living in a free country i am free to make suggestions, ridicule and the like, I never said i was an expert. My comments are just directed to highlight how stupid the entire affair is and to show how out of touch so many aspects of American government are. Before you reply to my comments you might like to step back and realise how poorly the American government is taking care of its citizens, country and its record in global affairs. Does it really know what its doing in any thing that it does ? The 70 cars must have been required or approved by the Americans, they would have expressed their requirements for satisfaction long before the day. Obama is just one player in the entire stageplay, these expeditions they organise for your entertainment. I personally dont care much either way for Obama, he is just a primadona who likes being on TV - aka Paris Hilton.
klingon00Nov 17, 2009
I love how the Obama apologists try to justify his actions by saying "But, but, Bush did it too!" It's just sad trying to justify bad behavior by saying the last guy did it almost as bad. This is supposed to be an example of leadership? Change you can believe in... right.
klingon00Nov 17, 2009
A large motorcade may be normal for a president who dances and holds hands with the oil king of Saudi Arabia and who turned down the Kyoto treaty.Isn't it a teensy bit hypocritical that a president who wants to shove cap and tax down our collective throats and supports economic redistribution in the name of environmental justice to not at least try to improve his carbon footprint, at least a little bit? At least Carter put on a sweater when he claimed he turned down the thermostat in the white-house.But then again, Obama did bow deeply to the same king of Saudi Arabia... I guess Obama and Bush have a lot in common after all.
davidtcNov 17, 2009
The President should cut down his security to make you happier? Well I guess Obama being less secure would bring joy to many of you knowing that the chance of him being attacked is better.
covenNov 17, 2009
You're behaving like a f**king child.
scooternrocketNov 18, 2009
America is heavily in debt and the best you can reply is to waste more money on stupid pomp and ceremony. Extrapolate all the other government waste and think what if, what if something sensible and productive was actually created instead of waste. How many other government officials are so stupid they just waste and burn money. One day China will call in your debts, all those Chinese paying for this extravegence are asking everyday why they should be frugle so their debtors can spend money like its water while they bust their ass.This extire thing reminds me of i think the show is Criminal Minds, where the FBI agents travel from city to city in their own Lear Jet because Commercial airlines arent worth of them. Or perhaps i could highlight CSI Miami where every Cop there has a Hummer or Mercedes, all on a policemans wage..
covenNov 18, 2009
So what angelic country do you hail from that can apparently do no wrong since you're devoting your time and energy to badmouthing my country?You're right, we've been far too imperialistic for our own good. I'll be the first to admit that. But don't peg these military actions on Obama. He didn't start them. He does have to finish them. We can't just leave Iraq and Afghanistan twisting in the wind. We saw back in the 80s exactly why you don't leave a war torn country to fend for itself when we abandoned Afghanistan."* What free country has started more wars and killed more people this century than all countries combined ?"Started more wars this century? Well...we didn't start either World War. Korea...nope didn't start that one. Vietnam...wasn't started by Americans either. Gulf War...nope. Afghanistan...yes we invaded, but I think we had a very good reason to go in. I think the only one you have a leg to stand on is Iraq Part 2. Are you going to try to blame the current administration for that boondoggle? We're winding that one down.As for who has killed the most people...I'd probably peg Stalin's Soviet Union with that one. He killed more people (mostly his own) than the Nazis did. "* How many trillions did they spend to bail out banks just so the bosses can give themselves bonuses."The bailouts of the banks was passed October 3rd, 2008. "They" , being the current administration, didn't assume power until January 20th, 2009. Also remember that Congress controls the purse strings here. I don't know where you're from or how it works where you live, but that's how we do things."* What happened to health care ?"It passed the House and is working its way through the Senate. It's not a single payer system, but its something. "* What happened to a fair trial for the Guitmo prisoners ?"You're not paying attention to world news, are you? If you are you would know that Khaled Sheikh Mohammed and 4 of his co-conspirators are being brought to New York City to stand trial before a federal court. Other Guantanamo Bay prisoners are either being released, or will be moved to facilities within the United States to await trial. Obama is under heavy fire from his opponents for bringing KSM to the states to stand trial in a civilian court. Had you any intention to hold intelligent debate you would have done the proper research, like read the front page of any American news website, it's right there for f**k's sake. Inform yourself next time and maybe, just maybe, you wont make such a fool out of yourself. "Whats the point of 30 cars in front and behind when you have at most one on either side ?"Ok, Mr. Security Expert. You go write the Secret Service and give them your plan to protect the president. I'm sure your short time being a keyboard commando outweighs their more than a century of experience in protecting the most powerful man on earth (they started protecting the president full time in 1902).
scooternrocketNov 18, 2009
I delibrately stated this century to keep things current - Vietnam is last century and it was started by the USA. Keep focused and forget Stalin but if one goes back 50 years Americans have not got much to be proud of in terms of their foreign policy.You might want to also check out all the crooked dictators who were installed, backed or supplied by the USA. Many people in those lands, would not be praising America for its help, if anything you bring misery to more people than you help. You do realise that if you did not arm Iraq in the 80s and not object to their Kuwait ambitions the entire invasion may not have happened. Without any equipmentit would have been hard for Iraq to attack Iran and then Kuwait. Again i ask what common factor if removed would have prevented this situations ?Most of Western Europe has had health care for its citizens for many years, you still have not resolved the details. Strange priorities worrying about chasing Al Qaeda which were never a threat to the average American but you ignore healthcare. Brilliant.Obama may be new but in the end, what has really changed, the personnel in the various remain as can be seen by the status quo being kept in the majority of cases. What has really changed, so many major actions with a global highlight are moronic, this just highlights the sillyness of it all.About the Gitmo prisoners, it only took close to 10 years, how would you feel to be locked up for 10 years without charge ? They shouold have been charged and brought to trial the day after Obama came into power not over 1 year later. One would think that after 10 years all necessary evidence should have already been collated. What happened to JFK ?Living in a free country i am free to make suggestions, ridicule and the like, I never said i was an expert. My comments are just directed to highlight how stupid the entire affair is and to show how out of touch so many aspects of American government are. Before you reply to my comments you might like to step back and realise how poorly the American government is taking care of its citizens, country and its record in global affairs. Does it really know what its doing in any thing that it does ? The 70 cars must have been required or approved by the Americans, they would have expressed their requirements for satisfaction long before the day. Obama is just one player in the entire stageplay, these expeditions they organise for your entertainment. I personally dont care much either way for Obama, he is just a primadona who likes being on TV - aka Paris Hilton.