peer.org — Grand Canyon National Park is not permitted to give an official estimate of the geologic age of its principal feature, due to pressure from Bush administration appointees. Despite promising a prompt review of its approval for a book claiming the Grand Canyon was created by Noah's flood rather than by geologic forces.
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grousemtDec 29, 2006
If Bush is so bad, why do you have to make s**t up about him? Got nothing truthful to say?It took me a whopping 2 minutes to find this on a NPS document available on the NPS-Grand Canyon website: ?While the rocks are ancient, the canyon is young. Geologists generally agree that canyon carving occurred over the last 5?6 million years?a geologic blink of the eye.?PEER is lying when they say, "How old is the Grand Canyon? Park Service won't say" What a bunch of bed-wetting morons you are.
carlosglzDec 29, 2006
Here is the audio of the speech:<a class="user" href="http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/images/column/111206/bobby2.mp3">http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/images/column/111206/bobby2.mp3</a>
laseroneDec 30, 2006
This is too horrible to be true. I looked on snopes.com but could not find it. Is this really true? At first I thought it was an Onion article. When I realized that it was supposedly true, I really got upset. Is our country really coming to this? I hope I find out that this is a satire article.
freffDec 30, 2006
@mutatronThe very fact that you use the word liberal as a pejorative leads me to believe that you are anything but a reasonable person.
nowiseeDec 30, 2006
Religion has given "dumb" people some way to explain things they them self can't understand. e.g. christianity explains the evolution as being the works of god. But as we get smarter and are able to explain certain things with logic, religion looses ground. And as that happens, religion looses power. Religion has been a tool to control the masses, and to justify wars and other criminal acts. So I'm not at all surprised that certain people don't want religion to be abolished.
athlionDec 30, 2006
If you came to Greece someday (you're welcome!), you would find that not only this is possible, but religion in actually TAUGHT in school! And it's mandatory! Each morning, children are summoned to pray to their god and religious courses are in the curriculum for almost 10 years (from the very beginning up till just before you prepare for your place in a university, if any). Is it any wonder why 9 out of 10 Greeks are "certain" that god exists? ... What about evolution, you ask? Well, I do remember encountering in ONCE (yes ONCE!) in classroom in my biology course and of course we had the reminder from the teacher that "this has absolutely nothing to do with god. It's just a theory of how things are thought to work. One can believe that god made us and also know about this theory". Orwell's 1984, anyone? Double thinking? Help! Somebody get me out of this hell-hole full of crazy people!-- from Greece!
araya213Dec 31, 2006
Well, you should express it more openly! Our voices are silenced at the voting booths so I'll be damned if I don't shout my message from the hills.
jeepindonDec 31, 2006
HERE COME THE DARK AGES, ALONG WITH A NEW NOAHS FLOOD WHEN THE NORTH AND SOUTH POLES MELT, Fing BUSH some one kill him please.
Closed AccountJan 2, 2007
And the devil mad the 300 million year old rocks in the grand canyon look that way to pull you from god.
Closed AccountJan 4, 2007
and this is when the dumbass athiests come on and comment saying YEA RIGHT THERES NO GOD WE WERE MADE FROM NOTHING SO WE COULD LIVE ON OUR COMPUTERS
weepopstarApr 25, 2007
weekle this is ridiculous. Your hate for Bush and the administration is so rabid, that you can't even discern fact from fiction. Eskeptic covered this <a class="user" href="http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/07-01-17.html">http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/07-01-17.html</a>Fact Checking 101 How Skeptic magazine was Duped by an Environmental Activist Groupby Michael ShermerIn last week’s eSkeptic , we published highlights from a press release issued by PEER (Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility), a Washington D.C.-based environmental watchdog group. That press release, dated December 28, 2006, was headlined:HOW OLD IS THE GRAND CANYON? PARK SERVICE WON’T SAY Orders to Cater to Creationists Makes National Park Agnostic on GeologyThe first sentence of the release reads:Washington, DC — Grand Canyon National Park is not permitted to give an official estimate of the geologic age of its principal feature, due to pressure from Bush administration appointees.Unfortunately, in our eagerness to find additional examples of the inappropriate intrusion of religion in American public life (as if we actually needed more), we accepted this claim by PEER without calling the National Park Service (NPS) or the Grand Canyon National Park (GCNP) to check it. As a testimony to the quality of our readers, however, dozens immediately phoned both NPS and GCNP, only to discover that the claim is absolutely false. Callers were told that the Grand Canyon is millions of years old, that no one is being pressured from Bush administration appointees — or by anyone else — to withhold scientific information, and all were referred to a statement by David Barna, Chief of Public Affairs, National Park Service as to the park’s official position. “Therefore, our interpretive talks, way-side exhibits, visitor center films, etc. use the following explanation for the age of the geologic features at Grand Canyon,” the document explains.If asked the age of the Grand Canyon, our rangers use the following answer: ‘The principal consensus among geologists is that the Colorado River basin has developed in the past 40 million years and that the Grand Canyon itself is probably less than five to six million years old. The result of all this erosion is one of the most complete geologic columns on the planet.’Understandably, many of our readers were outraged by both the duplicity of the claim and our failure to fact check it. One park ranger wrote us:You’re a day late and a dollar short on this one. As a national park ranger, I found most of PEER’s findings to be bogus. So have others: <a class="user" href="http://parkrangerx.blogspot.com">http://parkrangerx.blogspot.com</a>
dosmillSep 1, 2007
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Closed AccountDec 3, 2007
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jessefJul 14, 2008
Everybody should open google earth and take a look at the Grand Canyon for yourselves. It is pretty easy to see that a huge rush of water created the Grand Canyon. Earth is traveling around the sun at 67000 miles per hour, that is pretty scary especially if nobody is in charge.
magnjakaJan 21, 2009
the Grand Canyon was formed by the flood.Grand Canyon is not millions of years old and was not formed by the Colorado River.The river enters the canyon at 2800 ft the ground rises to 8500-6900 ft. The rivers goes through the bottom, rivers do not flow uphill, and there is no delta. Truth: When the flood happened the canyon filled up and thats what made the layers.