crunchgear.com — We should all microwave some popcorn, get comfortable, and watch Blu-Ray die a slow, agonizing death. According to Cymfony, a marketing demographics and statistics group, HD-DVD has a more positive “buzz” than Sony’s Blu-Ray, because of the string of failed formats.
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zenmojoDec 9, 2006
Sony's history with proprietary formats has always been a losing proposition. Just look at the DVD and CD....Really, who uses those?
amapeachDec 9, 2006
It would be neat to see something new like using a thumb drive or something smaller to just walk up and put it into a type of DVD player that had thousands of movies on it... just a little thought. I did like Sony's idea of putting it out there, but i have a feeling with in a year there is going to be something much better... i heard something about it... i should look it up again.
moby22Dec 10, 2006
Sigh.Let's clear something up. The FCC has NOT declared that all stations should broadcast HD signals by a certain date. What they have done is set a deadline (numerous times) by which all stations should broadcast a DIGITAL signal. It is pure coincidence that HD requires a digital signal.In other words, the FCC wants to reclaim licenses for the electromagnetic broadcast spectrum normally used for analog transmission - you will know this as VHF and UHF channels, among other things. They are mandating that the TV stations that currently broadcast in analog make the switch to digital transmission in order to do this. This means that, once the switch has been made, your old television (and even many new ones) will no longer be able to change channels using the built-in tuner. Any TV without a digital tuner will need a set-top box to change the channels for it. This goes for all over-the-air (OTA) broadcasts - the kind you us rabbit ears for. I could be wrong, but I do not think this applies to cable or satellite.Some stations will choose to use this opportunity to roll out HD programming; however, this will not be mandatory. Some stations will continue SD programming, simply doing so using a digital signal.Other "benefits" of digital television (DTV) are marvels like the "broadcast flag" and other DRM-type breakthroughs.One more point about the difference between HDTV and DTV - many new HDTV sets that you can buy do not have a DTV tuner. You will still have to buy a set-top box for these sets when the time comes. How can you see a high-def picture, you ask? The HDMI input on your new set is a digital input. This is probably what you use to connect your DVD player, and is what you will plug your DTV tuner into (although you could use the analog composite inputs for a comparable experience),Here's some good info on the subject [PDF]:<a class="user" href="http://www.house.gov/bass/dtv.pdf">http://www.house.gov/bass/dtv.pdf</a>
bbearDec 10, 2006
The amount of shelf space given to a product in a store is determined (mostly) by demand for that product not by how many manufacturers there are. If people are buying more HD-DVD players than Blu-Ray players because they are cheaper (or for whatever reason) you might see 3 different model players from Toshiba and 1 Sony Blue-Ray player on the shelf and not see any players from Samsung, Philips, or Sharp at all.
maninblac1Dec 10, 2006
The american porn industry has not decided, asian porn has. But really, how clearly do you need to see a girl to appreciate sex appeal, crap most people do alright with censored stuff so it doesn't have to be that clear.
obkenobiDec 10, 2006
"They did, that's exactly why Blu-Ray is a large consortium."A large consortium of rat bastards.
fatnutzDec 10, 2006
FICTION: HD-DVD/Blu-Ray must be acquired ASAP, preferrably a player and a ton of movies for the holidays. It's the future now, and High def is soooooooooooooooooooooo worth the price of admission. It's like a new-world, you can't live without it.FACT: Nobody in their right mind, with a life to worry about, i.e. bills, car payment, etc. Gives a f**k about either format at it's current price. DVD movies still deliver a f**king great experience at a more reasonable cost...Not to mention the difference in quality was a helluva lot better from VHS to DVD, than DVD to HD-DVD/Blu Ray...
maninblac1Dec 11, 2006
So in other words, you speak of statistics you can not site, you discredit siteable statistics, and you're speaking completely subjectively. Have you ever formulated a logical argument in your life?As for the FCC requirement, it's not changed, it's still in effect and has been for several years, it appears however the effective date is still in question and congress is looking a time frame of early 2009 (PBS website).You also seem to miss the fact that HDTV's aren't that expensive anymore, as i said, did you miss black friday this year. 52" LCD HDTV for 550, hardly a thousand dollars, you're saying in 3 years time they'll be less affordable than that?And lastly, who ever said i was so rich? I'm a college student, i'm in the pits of povertity with more real debt than most other people. And my father lives at around the poverty line, the fact i can go to a nice school and what not is all to the government's credit really. Say what you will, but "livin' real" means being objective. You can't call a white fence black just because you want it to be. It's still a white fence.
topnotchnetDec 11, 2006
again never said i could site those stats, just going off of real world experiences and various books ive read, again your free to google and research the subject all you wanti dont discredit "siteable" stats just dont pay any attention to them they will lean towards whoever funded the study and will always have the majority or marketing agenda in mindfact is most people are paycheck to paycheckmost people bring home less than $500 per weekmost people dont own an hdtvmost people dont know or care what hd dvd or blue ray isand most people wont be able to afford them for the forseeable futurehow many of those $550 black friday tvs were actually in the store? 3i would hope since your a college student you would be smart enough to realize those prices are just to get the people to the store and theres rarely enough to supply more than the first few sheeple to get thempricegrabber.com show the cheapest 52 lcd around $1200 that doesnt include tax or shipping you can get the stand for $349 thoughsohd dvd player $425or xbox360 + add on $500again no tax/shippingso lets say right noew $500 for an hd dvd palerand you need an hd tv to go along with itso blue ray player $650or ps3 $600so yeah for a tv AND a player for the format no movie included will most likely set you back at least a 1 grandyeah in 3 years you'll probably cab get a hdtv and a hd or blue ray player for under $500 , which might be cheap to you but again a weeks salary aint cheap to most folksand so the date moves to 2009 stick to your stats man 2008 or just add to them as you see fit no matter to menever said you were rich i just implied that you should feel fortunate that $550 is cheap and that you can even be in debt some people on this planet cant get credit because of various reasons"Have you ever formulated a logical argument in your life?"no i dont argue it takes years of your lifejust stated my opinion and you know what they say about opinionsbuddha bless
eatingpieDec 11, 2006
@mleh "Perhaps you should stop storing/downloading the transport streams and start acquiring x264-encoded content, or encode it yourself. You can get a 1080i TS rescaled to 720p and fit it on a single DVD-R (or a DVD9 if you're paranoid about quality)."You suggest I get a downgraded version of the original HDTV Transport stream? That I watch lower resolution 720p on a 1080i Native TV? That I spend ... what?... hours and hours re-encoding each movie to save 30% of my disk space? So I'd now have 1.5 TB rather 2 TB, and far, far lossier film data than before?I'm again led to ask if you've ever watched HDTV... on an actual HDTV (ISF Calibrated in my case) rather than a computer monitor?Quality is imperative to me. That was why I pointed out the potential data rates of Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. They both look beautiful. What you suggest takes us in exactly the opposite direction!-Pie
astrotrainDec 11, 2006
Too much HiDef everything happening, personally I don't give .02 of high def, not important to me to spend billions of dollars to see a zit on the nose of an actor. blah...
staticneuronJan 18, 2007
How did the come up with this data?"Cymfony looked at 17,664 posts from 323 blogs and discussion boards over the last two months. The majority of posts came from two groups, videophiles and gamers, and were evenly divided between the two technologies."Anyone else see something wrong with this? How many people are going to say something positive based on influenced opinions instead of actual experience? How many of these are fan sites? How does evenly divided equal to hd dvd wins?marked as lame/ food for trolls.