hoder.com— A blogger got turned back at the US border after the guard Googled him, discovered his blog, and determined that his presence in the US has been a little more permanent than it should be.
Nov 29, 2005View in Crawl 4
"Breach of privacy? Give me a break?If you have nothing to hide, than whats the big deal?If you have something to hide, well then thats your problem"Isn't freedom great? You have the freedom to believe that the government should be allowed to know everything about you.
ok.. what right does he have to be in the us? those who say the us is no longer the land of the free are right.. but NOT because of this!!! its is NOT unreasonable to deny someone who doesn't have citizenship entry to the united states if they have overstayed. It is a little strange that the guard used the blog to gather evidence but I wonder what would happen in the event of a diary or journal? It sounds like he's just complaining because what was supposed to happen actually happened for once.
I think the scarry thing about this is that they started to question him about this posts... Sure he was an illegal and kicked out, thats moot, but do you want to be googled & interrogated every time you cross the borders?Oh wait I forget most people living in the usa never leave their state.
> The real story here is that Canada allowed a person with no > legal standing to enter their country with no protest....sigh...Yeah, the only people without any legal standing to enter the country are those who will work to lower your wage (fence jumpers and HB1 visa holders)....so it's obvious to me; IT is *NOT* where it's at. HR, the industry of bringing random people into this country, giving them money and sending them on their way when they get too uppity/mouthy, is where it's at... yeah that's gota' be good for security.> f**k it , i say let em in. You are never going to stop terrorism > buy turning away illegal aliens. If you tart karts didn't realize > the "high jackers" all had legal papers.If the boarder guard was so damned "smart" he would have flagged him for surveillance and let him go on his way. Our human int process is broken that we can't even do passive human int let alone recruitment.Google... yeah, like that's authoritative...> 1. Generaly people put in any position of power will flex nutsWhat the boarder guard did was bad for the country; he should have let the Iranian in and flagged him for surveillance (I'm pretty sure he was already flagged, but the bottom line is that you have to let them cross in order to surveil existing domestic networks.> 2. The information age is upon us...and so is the disinformation age.> and if you want to be on the grid, EXPECT that > info to be used against you some day.What did you say your name was? I got some things I'd like to get off my chest on your behalf. See how that works? All I have to do is have a better understanding of page rank and you're screwed.> Its calle NATIONAL SECURITYDude... he was on a BUS! ...some people might find that in and of itself to be suspicious, but god knows how many second class citizens the no-fly list has created. Actually, it would be pretty easy to find out... just look at bus company revenues over the last 2 years.> this guy isn't an American Citizen, so he doesn't have those rightsActually, as an American citizen, under the Patriot Act, you don't either. Oh, the irony.> "No officer, that's not my blogYeah, that was his first mistake... admitting he was a blogger; having his opinions looked up was just a matter of course after that word slipped his mouth. Just ask Dan Gilmore (aka "suspected terrorist") how that worked out for him (and he's an American and he's rich enough to fight back).> 1. A whole hell of a lot of Digg readers are afraid of foreigners> being in the united states.You know what I'm pissed off about? I'm pissed off that American industry can dilute wages/salaries, for those of us who made the sacrifices to insure that we were well educated, by importing cheap labor because the existing domestic labor pool has been decimated by decades of craptacular education.If the threat of "Terrorism"(tm) produces that correction required, I'm all for it.> possible for frequent [American] visitors of Japan.Oh, if you travel frequently enough to Japan, the Japanese will pull your ass aside to take your picture/finger prints and ask you lots of questions to see if you qualify for a stay at their detention center (you can actually see it on the mono-rail ride from Henada into Tokyo proper... if you get that far).
Closed AccountNov 29, 2005
"Breach of privacy? Give me a break?If you have nothing to hide, than whats the big deal?If you have something to hide, well then thats your problem"Isn't freedom great? You have the freedom to believe that the government should be allowed to know everything about you.
squeegeeNov 29, 2005
Give that INS/Border Agent a raise!
scbysnxNov 29, 2005
ok.. what right does he have to be in the us? those who say the us is no longer the land of the free are right.. but NOT because of this!!! its is NOT unreasonable to deny someone who doesn't have citizenship entry to the united states if they have overstayed. It is a little strange that the guard used the blog to gather evidence but I wonder what would happen in the event of a diary or journal? It sounds like he's just complaining because what was supposed to happen actually happened for once.
neozeedNov 29, 2005
I think the scarry thing about this is that they started to question him about this posts... Sure he was an illegal and kicked out, thats moot, but do you want to be googled & interrogated every time you cross the borders?Oh wait I forget most people living in the usa never leave their state.
massaNov 29, 2005
I am afraid that two years from now, the guys will see my posts at debian-legal and bore themselves to death :-) +dugg
Closed AccountNov 29, 2005
> The real story here is that Canada allowed a person with no > legal standing to enter their country with no protest....sigh...Yeah, the only people without any legal standing to enter the country are those who will work to lower your wage (fence jumpers and HB1 visa holders)....so it's obvious to me; IT is *NOT* where it's at. HR, the industry of bringing random people into this country, giving them money and sending them on their way when they get too uppity/mouthy, is where it's at... yeah that's gota' be good for security.> f**k it , i say let em in. You are never going to stop terrorism > buy turning away illegal aliens. If you tart karts didn't realize > the "high jackers" all had legal papers.If the boarder guard was so damned "smart" he would have flagged him for surveillance and let him go on his way. Our human int process is broken that we can't even do passive human int let alone recruitment.Google... yeah, like that's authoritative...> 1. Generaly people put in any position of power will flex nutsWhat the boarder guard did was bad for the country; he should have let the Iranian in and flagged him for surveillance (I'm pretty sure he was already flagged, but the bottom line is that you have to let them cross in order to surveil existing domestic networks.> 2. The information age is upon us...and so is the disinformation age.> and if you want to be on the grid, EXPECT that > info to be used against you some day.What did you say your name was? I got some things I'd like to get off my chest on your behalf. See how that works? All I have to do is have a better understanding of page rank and you're screwed.> Its calle NATIONAL SECURITYDude... he was on a BUS! ...some people might find that in and of itself to be suspicious, but god knows how many second class citizens the no-fly list has created. Actually, it would be pretty easy to find out... just look at bus company revenues over the last 2 years.> this guy isn't an American Citizen, so he doesn't have those rightsActually, as an American citizen, under the Patriot Act, you don't either. Oh, the irony.> "No officer, that's not my blogYeah, that was his first mistake... admitting he was a blogger; having his opinions looked up was just a matter of course after that word slipped his mouth. Just ask Dan Gilmore (aka "suspected terrorist") how that worked out for him (and he's an American and he's rich enough to fight back).> 1. A whole hell of a lot of Digg readers are afraid of foreigners> being in the united states.You know what I'm pissed off about? I'm pissed off that American industry can dilute wages/salaries, for those of us who made the sacrifices to insure that we were well educated, by importing cheap labor because the existing domestic labor pool has been decimated by decades of craptacular education.If the threat of "Terrorism"(tm) produces that correction required, I'm all for it.> possible for frequent [American] visitors of Japan.Oh, if you travel frequently enough to Japan, the Japanese will pull your ass aside to take your picture/finger prints and ask you lots of questions to see if you qualify for a stay at their detention center (you can actually see it on the mono-rail ride from Henada into Tokyo proper... if you get that far).