foxnews.com— A Seattle bank teller has lost his job because he ran down a would-be bank robber and held him until police arrived.
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"The money is FDIC insured too, so even taking a minor risk isn't worth it."This mentality is exactly why we have so many criminals who are absolutely fearless of prosecution. If more got caught and or got their asses kicked for their crimes then perhaps not breaking the rules of polite society would actually be more common place. As it is now there is absolutely no deterrent for breaking the law because lawyers have created outs like this. Write it off and call the company lawyer to file a claim, no worries it's insured by the taxpayers.
Last time I checked crime fighting was for cops (as stupid as they may be), and not for bank tellers. If he wanted to be a crime fighter, tell him to enter the police academy and fight then. The bank has these policies for a reason. I used to work at a bank. If one of my coworkers tried to chase a guy that just robbed the bank, I would be seriously pissed as he just put my life in jeopardy. On top of that, what if the bank robber got away and was seriously pissed off about this guy chasing him? I'd be scared the guy would come back for revenge, even if it was a few months later.
Umm, no. He CHASED the guy. The guy wasn't beating the crap out of an employee for not giving him the money. If the guy was in a hostage situation and the robber was hurting someone in the bank, then your statement makes sense. But the robber clearly just wanted to get the money and bolt, like most dumbass bank robbers. For some reason this guy wanted to be a hero and get the bank the few grand the guy stole.
"Yet you continue to insist that your value judgments are the only valid ones,"No I don't. I'm just stating an opinion as you are just stating yours. They are different so we debate it."I disagree with you, but by no means do I call you a coward, either implicitly or explicitly." & "Conversely, isn't choosing to allow wrongdoing in order to protect your personal safety the very definition of cowardice?"You're maybe not even aware of what you did since the thought of the chase gets you hyped. Perhaps it's because I have children who depend on my wellbeing that I don't consider myself so disposable for the sake of OP's commercial commodities.But in the end, it's just different opinions based on different perspectives and personallities.
"No I don't. I'm just stating an opinion as you are just stating yours." -- But when we talk about determining the wisdom or foolishness or apprehending a robber, the only criteria you allow as valid are the following: 1) the likelihood of personal harm; and 2) the value of the commodity being stolen. You don't even allow for the possibility that a reasonable person might view doing good as the sole criterion for determining whether such a chase is wise. Instead, they are "foolish" and "Darwin Award" candidates. When people are foolish because their value judgments differ from yours, then the only reasonable conclusion an observer can draw is that you believe your value judgments are the only valid value judgments."You're maybe not even aware of what you did since the thought of the chase gets you hyped." -- Actually, confronted with such a prospect, I'm pretty sure I'd be deathly afraid, rather than hyped. I hope I would still have the courage to do what I believe to be right despite my fear. But I do see why you might think I implied you were a coward; it was not my intention to disparage your character."I don't consider myself so disposable for the sake of OP's commercial commodities." -- Neither would I. Neither would the teller in question, I imagine. But the "commodity" at stake for people like him is not the physical thing being stolen, but simple justice; and some people are willing to put their lives on the line for that."But in the end, it's just different opinions" -- True. I'm glad I was able to hear your opinions on the matter.
andrewh7Aug 3, 2009
Bank throws away millions on bad loans, demands govt. bail out money = CEO keeps jobTeller saves a few thousand from a thief = firedGod Bless America
dodger6Aug 3, 2009
"The money is FDIC insured too, so even taking a minor risk isn't worth it."This mentality is exactly why we have so many criminals who are absolutely fearless of prosecution. If more got caught and or got their asses kicked for their crimes then perhaps not breaking the rules of polite society would actually be more common place. As it is now there is absolutely no deterrent for breaking the law because lawyers have created outs like this. Write it off and call the company lawyer to file a claim, no worries it's insured by the taxpayers.
ahussain1986Aug 3, 2009
Last time I checked crime fighting was for cops (as stupid as they may be), and not for bank tellers. If he wanted to be a crime fighter, tell him to enter the police academy and fight then. The bank has these policies for a reason. I used to work at a bank. If one of my coworkers tried to chase a guy that just robbed the bank, I would be seriously pissed as he just put my life in jeopardy. On top of that, what if the bank robber got away and was seriously pissed off about this guy chasing him? I'd be scared the guy would come back for revenge, even if it was a few months later.
ahussain1986Aug 3, 2009
Umm, no. He CHASED the guy. The guy wasn't beating the crap out of an employee for not giving him the money. If the guy was in a hostage situation and the robber was hurting someone in the bank, then your statement makes sense. But the robber clearly just wanted to get the money and bolt, like most dumbass bank robbers. For some reason this guy wanted to be a hero and get the bank the few grand the guy stole.
myztryAug 4, 2009
"Yet you continue to insist that your value judgments are the only valid ones,"No I don't. I'm just stating an opinion as you are just stating yours. They are different so we debate it."I disagree with you, but by no means do I call you a coward, either implicitly or explicitly." & "Conversely, isn't choosing to allow wrongdoing in order to protect your personal safety the very definition of cowardice?"You're maybe not even aware of what you did since the thought of the chase gets you hyped. Perhaps it's because I have children who depend on my wellbeing that I don't consider myself so disposable for the sake of OP's commercial commodities.But in the end, it's just different opinions based on different perspectives and personallities.
stanleyfordAug 4, 2009
"No I don't. I'm just stating an opinion as you are just stating yours." -- But when we talk about determining the wisdom or foolishness or apprehending a robber, the only criteria you allow as valid are the following: 1) the likelihood of personal harm; and 2) the value of the commodity being stolen. You don't even allow for the possibility that a reasonable person might view doing good as the sole criterion for determining whether such a chase is wise. Instead, they are "foolish" and "Darwin Award" candidates. When people are foolish because their value judgments differ from yours, then the only reasonable conclusion an observer can draw is that you believe your value judgments are the only valid value judgments."You're maybe not even aware of what you did since the thought of the chase gets you hyped." -- Actually, confronted with such a prospect, I'm pretty sure I'd be deathly afraid, rather than hyped. I hope I would still have the courage to do what I believe to be right despite my fear. But I do see why you might think I implied you were a coward; it was not my intention to disparage your character."I don't consider myself so disposable for the sake of OP's commercial commodities." -- Neither would I. Neither would the teller in question, I imagine. But the "commodity" at stake for people like him is not the physical thing being stolen, but simple justice; and some people are willing to put their lives on the line for that."But in the end, it's just different opinions" -- True. I'm glad I was able to hear your opinions on the matter.
arkansawAug 10, 2009
guess he should become a policeman