dailymail.co.uk — New Zealanders have been sickened by the murder of a three-year-old girl who was put in a dryer and hung from a clothes line. But the final fatal blow was a brutal kick to the head, which led to her dying in hospital. A doctor told the court that if Nia had been taken to hospital immediately she likely would have survived.
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Closed AccountNov 24, 2008
SalaamWhile I threw in the odd insulting rhetoric, your post is comprised almost entirely of such. Have you ever actually intelligently talked to anyone in your entire life? I asked you some specific and profound questions which plague New Zealand society and you have nothing better than petty insults?Perhaps you didn't get the joke. You inferred that I have no right to classify the Maori race as an entity (God knows why - though I don't expect an intelligent reply on this any time soon). I then inferred that you were speaking on their behalf with your post (which you were). Can you see any errors in logic? No, probably not, it's easier just to spout mindless filth than talk about the facts.I'm by no means racist and I have friends from many cultures and ethnicities. Thankfully they're more enlightened than you are and don't knee-jerk "racist" at the first sign of cultural profiling. Cultural profiling is my preferred method of identifying troubled groups of peoples because it not only takes into account ethnicity, but more importantly age, gender, location, income and inherited CULTURAL traits. Nature and nurture have a roughly 50/50 role, so identifying that, say, Maori have a higher level of Monoamine oxidase in their brains (<a class="user" href="http://www.nzma.org.nz/journal/120-1250/2441/">http://www.nzma.org.nz/journal/120-1250/2441/</a> ), is just as important as realising that as a child, they are several times more likely to be abused by their parents (leading to the cycle of violence that the Maori have been documented to have).The government racially profiles all the time. Our ministry of health has identified that Maori typically can't afford the same level of healthcare that Eurpoean descendants can so have conducted multimillion dollar surveys to ascertain the areas with high concentration of Maori peoples and have subsidised their doctors visits at a higher level. Is this racist? Absolutely. Is it wrong? No way. I believe everyone should be entitled to universal healthcare at an expected level.Once again, I HAVE LOVELY MAORI FRIENDS. They are not the rule, however. You can cry about that as much as you like but it will simply remain true.SincerelyGarethPS, 'pakeha' is a derogatory term used by the Maori in early settlement times to belittle the 'white' settlers. It is racist and I'm offended that you used it, even on yourself. Have some more pride and never ever go around saying words like pakeha, gentlemen and "mud". They are unacceptable.
Closed AccountNov 24, 2008
I think I'm in love with you, anotherjack. That was the best thing I've read on here in awhile.
profanejokeNov 24, 2008
here are the questions that you actually asked"While I was trying to be nice and beat around the bush, would you care to explain what factors, other than "cultural", account for these OBSCENE numbers?"and"Why don't you get off your ass and ask your family to do something in the wider community?" The first one would be the only actual question you pose - the second one is a direct taunt, especially as you follow it up with the personal observation of "I'm sick of hearing the odd Maori chime in claiming they neither steal nor collect welfare when in fact most of their friends do.", And now you're trying to back out by saying "Perhaps you didn't get the joke." - which joke would that be? the one where you claim "They steal more, murder more, abuse more because of their "culture"." - is that your idea of hilarity?. But the first one is an actual question, what factors do contribute to these statistics? I do not know, you have found them and they are there - and they are terrible, but you chose to analyse them by claiming that it proves "If I met you on the street, you have a grossly disproportionate chance of harming me, stealing from me, or currently taking my tax money from the government. YOU may be a lovely person, your RACE lets you down." and "They work less and collect more social welfare because it's their "culture"." - and that is what I raise objection with, the wording of the conclusion that you reach. I don't refute the numbers - I won't even refute the numbers used here "Blacks account for 80% of our prison population, and those are the ones that don't get let off by our Jewish court system. 72% of blacks don't finish highschool." - from <a class="user" href="http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=1619861#post1619861">http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=1 ...</a> - quoted from a white power website, he used statistics as well to justify his interpretation - not too far from what you tried to do with "Maori comprised 49.5% of our total prison inmates!! You represent less than 14% of the total population, yet HALF of our serious crime is committed by you" - though I suspect he may have simply made up his numbers. At least he's a lot more honest about his racism than you are.You started originally with "Maori here describe this trend of violence as part of their "culture"." - go and take that original post to your Maori friends, exactly as it is written - do not mess around with rephrasing it or attempting to justify it beforehand, just present it to them and ask them to read it. If you claim that they find a joke in there, or that universally they found it acceptable - I will have no hesitation in claiming that you are a liar. You can try and recolor your statements as much as you want, you chose to choose to slander all Maori by the actions of a Minority and present it as a truth - you put yourself as that adjudicator of society and proclaimed maori to be inferior in your eyes, therefore you can wear title of "Racist".Quite a change in language isn't it? You started with some of the most offensive statements and I responded in kind - but I'm prepared to admit that this is a lost cause, we've got diametrically opposed views on your statements and will not reach a middle ground, I claim you're a racist, you claim you're a misunderstood mathematician with an unusual sense of humour and we're not likely to ever agree. - ProfaneDrunkPS - where did you find the definition stating that "Pakeha" is a derogatory term? According to the ngata dictionary it simply means "non maori new zealander", where did you get your translation of Pakeha from? the version claiming it means "white pig" or something was long ago discredited as being a myth - google it, or better yet go ask a Kaumatua of a marae near you (yes, I already have made the effort to get to know quite a bit about this country by learning about the people I share it with - something you seem to have neglected).
darwinbcNov 25, 2008
Really? What the f**k is wrong the world
spillingvoidNov 26, 2008
Sometimes words and the punishment available are just not sufficient.
professorfooDec 15, 2008
It's court costs. You have to go through huge amounts of appeals and such before being killed and it ends up costing a ridiculous amount of money.
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