telegraph.co.uk — They even made a mock-up photo of a bus carrying their chosen message: "There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and get on with your life." A specially-created website had attracted only 877 pledges when its deadline passed on Thursday, far short of the 4,678 people needed
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samoan27Aug 4, 2008
Actually science (specifically physics) is probably atheists biggest hurdle. Atheism, the idea that there is no God, is dying amongst anyone who studies natural law, specifically universal constants. See there are hundreds of universal constants, and with modern numerical modeling scientists can calculate what would occur if they were different. Well the results find that for life to exist, out universe has to be so precisely tuned it's impractical to believe it happened by chance. Here's one obscure example to demonstrate my point:<a class="user" href="http://digg.com/general_sciences/Thinnest_material_ever_pins_down_universal_constant">http://digg.com/general_sciences/Thinnest_material ...</a>Imagine a book on a desk and tell me how it got there; now you may argue that if you wait long enough, the movement of the molecules of the floor could align and hit that book such that it will on it's own leap up onto the desk. Now if you're not an idiot you dismiss that possibility as being so minuscule it couldn't happen. Well that's about as probable as thinking our universe happened without divine intervention. Creationist theory has more scientific foothold than atheism.Now I personally take the next step and say if this 'Creator' designed a universe so precise that it can actually contain life, he probably cares about it. But I can't prove this, math does nothing to describe this creator and if he cares for us; if you want to be agnostic I won't say a thing. But if you want to be atheist I can say with mathematical backing that your head is further up your ass than any religious zealot who's ever walked the earth (and you'll probably digg me down because of that fact, though I welcome any counter argument).
smokesteamAug 5, 2008
Tabula Rasa?
flashback99Aug 5, 2008
There's no evidence that santa claus exists. Why do us normal people have to listen to you delusional people? Either there is a god or there isnt. It's not like your imagination is suddenly going to affect everyone elses reality. (and magically create physical evidence)
tr909Aug 5, 2008
@teenageDeathBoy: I'm sorry if you hate people that stick to the literal definition of a word (A - without / THEIST - person of beliefs) instead of the popular misconception of the word which you seem to prefer. @anachonaut: I agree with you. However, I feel the difference between Belief and Faith are semantic. To me it's the difference between probability and belief/faith. For example. I leave my house everyday not because I believe or have faith I'll make it home. I do because my brain's subconscious feels it is probable that I return safely. However, if my house was surrounded with gunmen telling me they will shoot me dead when I leave and I still step out the door because I BELIEVE or have FAITH that god will protect me, then that is completely different. - And I'll be dead.
sonanAug 6, 2008
I didn't say my daughter was a theist. I don't believe 7 year olds are capable of having such a title. She's merely repeating what her friends say, who are merely repeating what their parents say, and none of them have a clue what it means. To her, god is just another magical being like the Tooth Fairy, and I have little doubt she'll eventually stop believeing in both.And for the record, I'm against the notion that you should indoctrinate your children with your own beliefs. That's actually the main problem here in my opinion, and it would be hipocritical to say it's ok for atheists to do it but not theists.
teenagedeathboyAug 9, 2008
"It's a cut and dry definition of someone who doesn't believe/think/whatever that is a God or Gods. END OF STORY"Should have a "there" after "that" and a "." after "STORY". Got a bit hasty at the end.
hfordhamOct 22, 2008
Now look again - over £50000 pledged
plug1Nov 6, 2008
and now look again... ?117,000 raised. they're planning a UK-wide campaign with the money.
rzamryckiJan 7, 2009
UPDATE:"Donations totalling more than £140,000 to fund adverts on 600 buses across UK as well as in London tube stations"<a class="user" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/06/atheist-bus-campaign-nationwide">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/06/atheis ...</a>
coercionJan 8, 2009
so people can discuss their belief of not believing... hmmmso what has nothing done for your life today?
coercionJan 8, 2009
oops my comment was meat to go here..so people can discuss their belief of not believing... hmmmso what has nothing done for your life today?