msnbc.msn.com— A Boston University professor argues that Americans, though 'spiritual,' are woefully ignorant about religion.
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@stonewaljacksnThe American Dream is that anyone, no matter where you are from or how poor you are, has the opportunity to become successful and happy in America if they work hard enough.-So first off, this in no way attempts to keep the poor, poor since it is actively encouraging them to attempt to achieve economic prosperity.-Yeah, the American Dream does give poor people hope, I won't deny that.-Again, the American Dream, by it's very nature, doesn't try to keep the poor scared. It encourages, not discourages.-The American Dream doesn't try to keep the poor away from the rich as it encourages the poor to amass wealth and become rich in the process.-Lastly, the whole keeping the poor from murdering the rich is pretty much irrelevant to what the American Dream is about.On a scale of failure from 1 to 10, I would say that you got a 7.
I would respectfully submit that most Diggers are ignorant about religion.I go to church maybe 1-3 Sundays a month and hear the most intellectually demanding and thought-provoking speakers, I donate time and money to help people around the world through the church, I work hard in life, take care of my family, raise kids who are (so far) successful, I help people's careers prosper at work and have never, ever seen anything untoward happen at any church I've been in, in my life. Sure, I read the papers, but those are the exceptions.And yet I see visceral anger and hatred directed towards my religion by Digg on a daily basis.
The one were Jesus died probably has some historical premise behind it, just ask Mel Gibson I'm pretty sure this story has some truth to it, unless he was bitten by Atheist Rabbit Vampires.
i appreciate your dig and your candor.I generally *try* not to make sweeping generalization, and I also trying to make intelligent *rational* statements vs emotionally based ones. you make a good point about a lot of major religions being culturally (or geographgically) based and being integrated together where the religion and the land and culture are virtual one. and I think that's one problem that the Bush admin has with their view of the middle east.We (supposedly) live in a land where various religions are all treated equally and even if you don't want to practice thats ok too (although in reality neither is true, but there's at least an effort made to make it so) But in the middle east, the law is Islamic law. There is is no other kind of law (generally speaking) other then that which comes from religion. To say otherwise would make you a heretic. So when a law requires a woman be stoned for commiting adultery or for not wearing her veil, there's almost no way to make a law banning that because the law is religious based.but I got off topic.as for people not knowing their faith... My shrink was not saying that all christians & catholics are know-nothings, nor are all Jews know it alls. But a higher pecentage of Jews know the rules, the history, the important religious figures as well as the texts themselves then do catholics and christians. and by a wide margin too. not only that, but I think a far greater percentage of jews live by the rules of their faith then do catholics and christians. again, there are exceptions on both sides, and we can debate the whys and the reasons quite at length, but thats not the point. the fact is that these are fairly accurate statements.and as I said earlier, that's been my experience too. I know plenty of supposed christians who don't go to church, do not read the bible, do not pray, can't name the 10 commandments, can't tell you any bible story other adam and eve and maybe noah's ark and the crucifixtion, but then claim that abortion is murder because god so and god thinks gays are an abomination and blah f**king blah.and I just roll my eyes at that point and swallow the bile that rose to my neck listening to these wanna-bes.I will now make what is probably a bit of a below the belt comment (but I can't help myself)the one good thing about the fact that so many catholics and christians are not as well learned: makes them more likely to come to their senses and realize that their is no God...
spiritcatcher:The Christmas story mentions both the Caesar and governor of the region. Additionally it offers information of the purpose of the census.Additionally the books of Jewish history provide background information on various wars in the region, mentioning local and internationally rulers and policies.Is this what you mean by historical background?
Science and it's many facts have never gone anywhere without a religion around it. Life without religion is life without morality. Sure- the lies abound that it's not so, but of course it is, and all it takes is one quick look around the world and the REALITY is that when there IS no religion there is nothing but sorrow, hardship and poverty, disease and uncertainty is everywhere that religion is banished.Atheists: oh, of course it's ok to sleep around: there's no actual drawback to it: lies, all lies.Reality: 25MILLION DEAD BODIES attest that homosexuality and profligate sexuality will destroy an entire civilization, leaving it prostrate: witness Africa today. Witness all the dying queers, demanding that WE: the part of the world that doesn't play that game, but studies, works, and invents: fix their f**ked up terminal venereal disease.Atheists: more of the same: straight sex between as many people as you want is PERFECTLY fine:Reality: cancer of the OVARIES - is spread by men. HPV is. That's the precurser for CANCER. CANCER is a direct result of sexual promiscuity. The more men: the more likely you are to get infected. So any 'yea but-' that you have is immediatly overruled: by REALITY.Atheists: Socialism is the way to go.Reality: There is a commandment about forced socialism: THOU SHALT NOT COVET.Looking at Russia who tried the exemption of themselves from THOU SHALT NOT COVET we see: poverty, hardship, disease, sadness, sorrow on a hundred planes.Reality: focibly taking what your neighbor has will simply make those who are capable of running an estate of any size leave. As we saw people jumping and being shot trying to get over the Berlin wall.Atheists: You shouldn't 'honor thy father and thy mother: do as you damned well see fit. We'll make it against the law to force children to abide by rules of their fathers and mothers' convention. They can feel free to "just be themselves".Reality: every male student in public schools on Ritalin; teachers who aren't 'bound' by their mothers' and fathers' conventions: LAWS made up about it: molesting children left, and right.Children too unruly to teach anything to. Murdering, Hazing, beating each other up on cellphone cams; cheating, the whole gamut of: a society without morals from a previous generation which abided by them:working at McDonalds and unable to ring up an alteration on a Happy Meal.That's just a few of the ten commandments; im not skilled enough to justify the rest of the Ten Commandments. but the 150 MILLION DEAD under either direct authority of atheistic states; or venereal disease: won't be lying to us about that any more.Science? When did science invent the light bulb; telephone; t.v. transistor; digital electronics; on, and on, and on... automobile, airplane?when they could be couched in the greatest society ever known: Protestant Christianity.Not till then. And, now that the nation has turned toward atheism and utter lack of discipline, there is trouble finding enough smart people for just ONE COUNTRY's industries: so they're being imported from all over the world. Protestant Christianity gave you every, SINGLE modern invention you have: by providing a society that cared about intelligence, fostering it with such fervor that the modern ages: modern ages such as the industrial revolution on- WAS NOT EVEN POSSIBLE before a country got away from Catholicism: and was free to practice principles taught by Christ Himself. Your atheists in Russia and China are thieves and counterfeiters like nobody's ever seen. China is in the black human organs market and has been for years: rounding up religious people for their trade.No, YOU LIE: your s**t don't fly and you try to cover the problems in your life with complaints about religion.Europe didn't have the last half century due to 'socialist skills'. It had it because when IT: completely melted down into MURDER and GENOCIDE; the nation with 'IN GOD WE TRUST' came over put a down on either side and said: ENOUGH'S ENOUGH:and since the time when the CHRISTIAN NATION: that had Blue Laws (Sabbath laws) and the IN GOD WE TRUST on it's money: they have FINALLY: after ALL THIS TIME: FOR THE FIRST TIME- while under the CHRISTIANS' watch:Have their own money. Have the workings of an actual Union.Have peace between each otherFinally have a FEW civil rights.Atheists with all their talk of 'sensible science' - INVENTED THE NUCLEAR WEAPON. Atheists' ever handy sidekicks: homosexuals - also GAVE that information to the COMMUNISTS: another clue as to how brainless a PhD in science can be: absolutely NO concept of the merits of one so called, 'morality' against another.The very INTERNET you decry God on was INVENTED to free the world from Atheistic murder machines bent on assimilating EVERYBODY : into their Borg of terror, horror, poverty, disgust.Science? an atheist will stand there with animal skin clothes on - your shoes are animal skin clothes, barbarian:and look out at the sky, 300 parsecs WIDE: and firmly declare that NO MATHEMATICs indicate the likelihood of other life. "Can't prove it to me" is the cry. You can't be persuaded that deadly venereal disease is a 'bad' thing. You invented nuclear weapons.You have brought us the some 70 MILLION TOTALLY INNOCENT human beings killed by communism: and the other SCORES of MILLIONS who had their lives ruined.The many many men: great, fearless, intellectual, small, poor, rich: who have claimed " i always felt like there was a force i could not see; which marked my life down on some great journal " etc: verify that it's not just something that people 'made up' without ANY kind of natural, built in sensitivity to another dimension: Their testimony of thoughts, which in spite of having vast evidence for having cool heads and singular strength of decision making - which the very men who had them say: i got it crystal clear that we needed to (pick the unlikely choice they made) and they do it: and entire groups of live saved:they mean more than just your brittle, whining scorn: because your brittle scorn is discussed at length in the scriptures: with the statements on the order that 'because of their unbelief they could not see the truth.Kinda like Communism's "Thoushalt Covet they neighbor's s**t"and the famous "oh, it's ok to be queer, we've beaten God with medicine.That little retro virus HAS kicked your ass: just like syphilis did. and that little retro virus is going to mutate, again and again: returning to clear the hordes of filth and weakness mongers homosexuality evinces off the face of the earth.that old bible saying about 'there will be two, then one' and that whole 'rapture' thing, so often mis-quoted by religions? It's actually reversed. The MEEK: or those who will listen to authority: shall inherit the earth. Not the mocking and scoffing atheist.That's why all those 'stupid' christians are around pissing on atheist graves tonight: you're dying like flies.It's also, why when they, themselves: pervert any of these laws: the laws of Christendom in their basic, general sense - they follow the same fate.A whoring generation: fatherless, socialogically lost children: followed by cynical and hopeless adults who pleasure seek: Men in poverty due to child support: women in spite of it all more in poverty than ever.More children in poverty than ever. BY PERCENT kids. Don't try to play games. It's a known fact.People having other gods: their own gods: cars, money, power, gettin some pussy, personal strength:pffft. If a being is indeed going to live a long, LONG time: then it follows that great technologies, will follow a civilization based on such existence. that means: POWER.And the ONE thing: that NO higher-order civilization can tolerate: is shallow, pleasure-centered decision making. The ONE thing: that would be of UTMOST importance: would be to teach the MANAGEMENT of PERSONAL POWER.Your earth life is a trainer. A simulator, actually, used as a trainer. If indeed you couldn't be killed: but only knocked out of your earthly, temporary body: good sense would take you for a long, and pleasant journey: punctuated by some losses; bad sense would bring upon you scores of problems. But the answer to all and any of those problems: is to find out what the order of construction is the basic method for society: and use that. To believe God when he tells you: do this; do that; and when you do it to more and more degree: you'll see the sense behind it more and more.Your talk of how you're the smartest thing the universe has ever seen is as mundane and pedantic as religions that fixate on specific instances in their books: ignoring others. All atheists have given us, when left to their own devices, are Communism, AIDS, and a quality of life that goes lower and lower: while pride and pure lust drive people to chase this or that shiny thing: all the while fearing the ULTIMATE ATHEIST invention: NUCLEAR WEAPONS.You don't have anything to say to me, until you create the civilization the United States has. discussion of a 'Creator' and 'God' ABOUND in the founding documents; and although many of those men might not have been much involved with organized religion per se, they were also very, very busy men; whose lives were not geared toward extreme religious bean counting. Although i would NEVER become a Dhimic-Rat, i'm actually quite liberal in many of my political beliefs: yet, today, in any conversation where it needed to be made clear my leanings, i'd i.d. myself to someone as a conservative.The TIMES form the words of men on a subject: as do their constituencies. Churches have provided women and children, for countless generations, with a bonding social fabric NOTHING else compares to in efficiency and percentage of non-weirdos generated: although it's plain to see this, that, or the other, actually 'organized' doctrine of different religions are fetishist. That doesn't make believing in God, even if one belongs to one of these religions: and even if one publicly DEFENDS it: one and the same, identical thing.Just as you atheists would never endorse nuclear war: you invented it.You'd never endorse venereal disease: your teachings spread it.You'd never endorse corruption: but the very thing in Enron was 'no higher morality' being exercised: though the top dogs were both VERY religious: and assumedly non religious. Nothing substitutes for morality like enormous wealth: people will use it as an idol to be chased, chastened by, pleased, and even f**king prayed to.Your concept of what religion is, is based on denial of it: therefore you will not be allowed to change. That's one of the rules. When you confess, that the truth is, NO religion is an awful, awful thing: and that religion itself: brings fantastic stability and health, properity and security, that NOTHING else can: THEN you are TELLING the truth: and apparently then able to ACCEPT that truth.Einstein himself was 2/3 in his strongest suit: physics. Being wrong a third of the time still labels him as one of your fondest heroic atheists. a 33% wrong rate: is no place to look for wisdom when that's his STRONG suit: and religion was his WEAK suit. Plus, hes the very guy who was in charge of you Atheists greatest achievement: NUCLEAR WARFARE.So don't come tell US that WE don't know what we're doing. YOU don't have a CLUE about governance; how to soothe a society and make it run well; or even balance the HUNDREDS of MILLIONS killed by atheistic dogma in the last century, alone. The claims of athistic and socialist Europe to being 'on to something good' are belied by their ever present need for somebody else to tell them when to strike: they couldn't reliably flip the switch on the LIGHT BULBS given them by our nation: our atheists and our agnostics, mostly: whom WE nurture.Not the other way around. Christianity provides a safe, secure society: with laws for every contingency: in which atheists and agnostics DO well, because there's very LITTLE actual, forceful mind control Western law is the height of law as its ever been known: far from perfect, wherein it follows the tenets of Christianity: 'do unto others as you'd have them do unto you' and 'love thy neighbor as thyself' it does VERY well in managing diverse peoples:it comes from English Common law etc: heavily influenced by the bible itself.Atheists come onto the internet: sitting under a lightbulb: both given them by the mother culture that nurtured them and their forefathers: and curse their founding mothers and fathers' wisdoms.wrong answer assh**e, and there is a reward in store for you, for doing so. Cynicism.Enjoy it. Because we've got about a thousand years to go, till the return of Christ again: as he shed light on the minds of the founders of the United States; so shall He withdraw his Spirit from the doubting: and they shall be left to their own devices: and their devices involve death, sorrow, cynical self destructiveness, hopelessness, and eventually, a life lain down to a policy of frivolity and caprice.Nobody respects or trusts an Atheist because an Atheist will choke on a gnat: and swallow a camel.An Atheist would try to incorporate screen doors on submarines just because it was fashionable: the way they endorsed homosexuality and general scorn on the law of Chastity: keep thy body pure.getting the HPV VIRUS and the HIV VIRUS as a thank you note to themselves for their 'brilliance' in orchestrating a 25MILLION MAN and WOMAN DEATH MARCH.The same way they scoffed at syphilis; the same way they scoff at Herpes; the same way they scoff at the capitalism that is provided, in a law system that does not teach it is ok to 'covet thy neighbor's house, goods, wife'You people have nothing to show but a dramatic series of HORRIBLE judgement calls while Christianity and Judaism gave you your laws; your medicine; your indoor facilities and your military that protects you from the Muslims, using it's army's INTERNET.pfft. Science? You can't even figure out that dying from AIDS is a BAD thing; and that queers are NOTORIOUS pedophiles: you cant even do anything about the fact that once a person is a sexual predator, they have a VERY high recitivism rate.In other words, Atheism and it's adherents are as stupid as f**king stumps. And most likely, -unless some Christian or Jew or Hindu or Buddhist comes along to save them: they'll shortly be as DEAD as stumps.Atheism is the devil's joke on mankind, about how easy it is to make him evil as- well, evil as the proverbial SNAKE: hissing disbelieve and scorn on wisdom lain down before you were born.
Religion is not ignorance, a lack of perception that disallows you to see the importance of religion to understand the context that it gives to everything international policy, conflict, culture and even scenic is ignorance.
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joeshieMar 5, 2007
@stonewaljacksnThe American Dream is that anyone, no matter where you are from or how poor you are, has the opportunity to become successful and happy in America if they work hard enough.-So first off, this in no way attempts to keep the poor, poor since it is actively encouraging them to attempt to achieve economic prosperity.-Yeah, the American Dream does give poor people hope, I won't deny that.-Again, the American Dream, by it's very nature, doesn't try to keep the poor scared. It encourages, not discourages.-The American Dream doesn't try to keep the poor away from the rich as it encourages the poor to amass wealth and become rich in the process.-Lastly, the whole keeping the poor from murdering the rich is pretty much irrelevant to what the American Dream is about.On a scale of failure from 1 to 10, I would say that you got a 7.
betonaMar 5, 2007
I would respectfully submit that most Diggers are ignorant about religion.I go to church maybe 1-3 Sundays a month and hear the most intellectually demanding and thought-provoking speakers, I donate time and money to help people around the world through the church, I work hard in life, take care of my family, raise kids who are (so far) successful, I help people's careers prosper at work and have never, ever seen anything untoward happen at any church I've been in, in my life. Sure, I read the papers, but those are the exceptions.And yet I see visceral anger and hatred directed towards my religion by Digg on a daily basis.
mikeyj10Mar 6, 2007
The one were Jesus died probably has some historical premise behind it, just ask Mel Gibson I'm pretty sure this story has some truth to it, unless he was bitten by Atheist Rabbit Vampires.
mikeyj10Mar 6, 2007
That's what she said.
teamgwhoMar 6, 2007
i appreciate your dig and your candor.I generally *try* not to make sweeping generalization, and I also trying to make intelligent *rational* statements vs emotionally based ones. you make a good point about a lot of major religions being culturally (or geographgically) based and being integrated together where the religion and the land and culture are virtual one. and I think that's one problem that the Bush admin has with their view of the middle east.We (supposedly) live in a land where various religions are all treated equally and even if you don't want to practice thats ok too (although in reality neither is true, but there's at least an effort made to make it so) But in the middle east, the law is Islamic law. There is is no other kind of law (generally speaking) other then that which comes from religion. To say otherwise would make you a heretic. So when a law requires a woman be stoned for commiting adultery or for not wearing her veil, there's almost no way to make a law banning that because the law is religious based.but I got off topic.as for people not knowing their faith... My shrink was not saying that all christians & catholics are know-nothings, nor are all Jews know it alls. But a higher pecentage of Jews know the rules, the history, the important religious figures as well as the texts themselves then do catholics and christians. and by a wide margin too. not only that, but I think a far greater percentage of jews live by the rules of their faith then do catholics and christians. again, there are exceptions on both sides, and we can debate the whys and the reasons quite at length, but thats not the point. the fact is that these are fairly accurate statements.and as I said earlier, that's been my experience too. I know plenty of supposed christians who don't go to church, do not read the bible, do not pray, can't name the 10 commandments, can't tell you any bible story other adam and eve and maybe noah's ark and the crucifixtion, but then claim that abortion is murder because god so and god thinks gays are an abomination and blah f**king blah.and I just roll my eyes at that point and swallow the bile that rose to my neck listening to these wanna-bes.I will now make what is probably a bit of a below the belt comment (but I can't help myself)the one good thing about the fact that so many catholics and christians are not as well learned: makes them more likely to come to their senses and realize that their is no God...
laserbearMar 14, 2007
Man Stonewall Jackson is full of alotta hate.
arcticjklMar 16, 2007
spiritcatcher:The Christmas story mentions both the Caesar and governor of the region. Additionally it offers information of the purpose of the census.Additionally the books of Jewish history provide background information on various wars in the region, mentioning local and internationally rulers and policies.Is this what you mean by historical background?
arcticjklMar 16, 2007
I wasn't expecting the Spanish inquisition.
arcticjklMar 16, 2007
Who?
Closed AccountMar 17, 2007
Science and it's many facts have never gone anywhere without a religion around it. Life without religion is life without morality. Sure- the lies abound that it's not so, but of course it is, and all it takes is one quick look around the world and the REALITY is that when there IS no religion there is nothing but sorrow, hardship and poverty, disease and uncertainty is everywhere that religion is banished.Atheists: oh, of course it's ok to sleep around: there's no actual drawback to it: lies, all lies.Reality: 25MILLION DEAD BODIES attest that homosexuality and profligate sexuality will destroy an entire civilization, leaving it prostrate: witness Africa today. Witness all the dying queers, demanding that WE: the part of the world that doesn't play that game, but studies, works, and invents: fix their f**ked up terminal venereal disease.Atheists: more of the same: straight sex between as many people as you want is PERFECTLY fine:Reality: cancer of the OVARIES - is spread by men. HPV is. That's the precurser for CANCER. CANCER is a direct result of sexual promiscuity. The more men: the more likely you are to get infected. So any 'yea but-' that you have is immediatly overruled: by REALITY.Atheists: Socialism is the way to go.Reality: There is a commandment about forced socialism: THOU SHALT NOT COVET.Looking at Russia who tried the exemption of themselves from THOU SHALT NOT COVET we see: poverty, hardship, disease, sadness, sorrow on a hundred planes.Reality: focibly taking what your neighbor has will simply make those who are capable of running an estate of any size leave. As we saw people jumping and being shot trying to get over the Berlin wall.Atheists: You shouldn't 'honor thy father and thy mother: do as you damned well see fit. We'll make it against the law to force children to abide by rules of their fathers and mothers' convention. They can feel free to "just be themselves".Reality: every male student in public schools on Ritalin; teachers who aren't 'bound' by their mothers' and fathers' conventions: LAWS made up about it: molesting children left, and right.Children too unruly to teach anything to. Murdering, Hazing, beating each other up on cellphone cams; cheating, the whole gamut of: a society without morals from a previous generation which abided by them:working at McDonalds and unable to ring up an alteration on a Happy Meal.That's just a few of the ten commandments; im not skilled enough to justify the rest of the Ten Commandments. but the 150 MILLION DEAD under either direct authority of atheistic states; or venereal disease: won't be lying to us about that any more.Science? When did science invent the light bulb; telephone; t.v. transistor; digital electronics; on, and on, and on... automobile, airplane?when they could be couched in the greatest society ever known: Protestant Christianity.Not till then. And, now that the nation has turned toward atheism and utter lack of discipline, there is trouble finding enough smart people for just ONE COUNTRY's industries: so they're being imported from all over the world. Protestant Christianity gave you every, SINGLE modern invention you have: by providing a society that cared about intelligence, fostering it with such fervor that the modern ages: modern ages such as the industrial revolution on- WAS NOT EVEN POSSIBLE before a country got away from Catholicism: and was free to practice principles taught by Christ Himself. Your atheists in Russia and China are thieves and counterfeiters like nobody's ever seen. China is in the black human organs market and has been for years: rounding up religious people for their trade.No, YOU LIE: your s**t don't fly and you try to cover the problems in your life with complaints about religion.Europe didn't have the last half century due to 'socialist skills'. It had it because when IT: completely melted down into MURDER and GENOCIDE; the nation with 'IN GOD WE TRUST' came over put a down on either side and said: ENOUGH'S ENOUGH:and since the time when the CHRISTIAN NATION: that had Blue Laws (Sabbath laws) and the IN GOD WE TRUST on it's money: they have FINALLY: after ALL THIS TIME: FOR THE FIRST TIME- while under the CHRISTIANS' watch:Have their own money. Have the workings of an actual Union.Have peace between each otherFinally have a FEW civil rights.Atheists with all their talk of 'sensible science' - INVENTED THE NUCLEAR WEAPON. Atheists' ever handy sidekicks: homosexuals - also GAVE that information to the COMMUNISTS: another clue as to how brainless a PhD in science can be: absolutely NO concept of the merits of one so called, 'morality' against another.The very INTERNET you decry God on was INVENTED to free the world from Atheistic murder machines bent on assimilating EVERYBODY : into their Borg of terror, horror, poverty, disgust.Science? an atheist will stand there with animal skin clothes on - your shoes are animal skin clothes, barbarian:and look out at the sky, 300 parsecs WIDE: and firmly declare that NO MATHEMATICs indicate the likelihood of other life. "Can't prove it to me" is the cry. You can't be persuaded that deadly venereal disease is a 'bad' thing. You invented nuclear weapons.You have brought us the some 70 MILLION TOTALLY INNOCENT human beings killed by communism: and the other SCORES of MILLIONS who had their lives ruined.The many many men: great, fearless, intellectual, small, poor, rich: who have claimed " i always felt like there was a force i could not see; which marked my life down on some great journal " etc: verify that it's not just something that people 'made up' without ANY kind of natural, built in sensitivity to another dimension: Their testimony of thoughts, which in spite of having vast evidence for having cool heads and singular strength of decision making - which the very men who had them say: i got it crystal clear that we needed to (pick the unlikely choice they made) and they do it: and entire groups of live saved:they mean more than just your brittle, whining scorn: because your brittle scorn is discussed at length in the scriptures: with the statements on the order that 'because of their unbelief they could not see the truth.Kinda like Communism's "Thoushalt Covet they neighbor's s**t"and the famous "oh, it's ok to be queer, we've beaten God with medicine.That little retro virus HAS kicked your ass: just like syphilis did. and that little retro virus is going to mutate, again and again: returning to clear the hordes of filth and weakness mongers homosexuality evinces off the face of the earth.that old bible saying about 'there will be two, then one' and that whole 'rapture' thing, so often mis-quoted by religions? It's actually reversed. The MEEK: or those who will listen to authority: shall inherit the earth. Not the mocking and scoffing atheist.That's why all those 'stupid' christians are around pissing on atheist graves tonight: you're dying like flies.It's also, why when they, themselves: pervert any of these laws: the laws of Christendom in their basic, general sense - they follow the same fate.A whoring generation: fatherless, socialogically lost children: followed by cynical and hopeless adults who pleasure seek: Men in poverty due to child support: women in spite of it all more in poverty than ever.More children in poverty than ever. BY PERCENT kids. Don't try to play games. It's a known fact.People having other gods: their own gods: cars, money, power, gettin some pussy, personal strength:pffft. If a being is indeed going to live a long, LONG time: then it follows that great technologies, will follow a civilization based on such existence. that means: POWER.And the ONE thing: that NO higher-order civilization can tolerate: is shallow, pleasure-centered decision making. The ONE thing: that would be of UTMOST importance: would be to teach the MANAGEMENT of PERSONAL POWER.Your earth life is a trainer. A simulator, actually, used as a trainer. If indeed you couldn't be killed: but only knocked out of your earthly, temporary body: good sense would take you for a long, and pleasant journey: punctuated by some losses; bad sense would bring upon you scores of problems. But the answer to all and any of those problems: is to find out what the order of construction is the basic method for society: and use that. To believe God when he tells you: do this; do that; and when you do it to more and more degree: you'll see the sense behind it more and more.Your talk of how you're the smartest thing the universe has ever seen is as mundane and pedantic as religions that fixate on specific instances in their books: ignoring others. All atheists have given us, when left to their own devices, are Communism, AIDS, and a quality of life that goes lower and lower: while pride and pure lust drive people to chase this or that shiny thing: all the while fearing the ULTIMATE ATHEIST invention: NUCLEAR WEAPONS.You don't have anything to say to me, until you create the civilization the United States has. discussion of a 'Creator' and 'God' ABOUND in the founding documents; and although many of those men might not have been much involved with organized religion per se, they were also very, very busy men; whose lives were not geared toward extreme religious bean counting. Although i would NEVER become a Dhimic-Rat, i'm actually quite liberal in many of my political beliefs: yet, today, in any conversation where it needed to be made clear my leanings, i'd i.d. myself to someone as a conservative.The TIMES form the words of men on a subject: as do their constituencies. Churches have provided women and children, for countless generations, with a bonding social fabric NOTHING else compares to in efficiency and percentage of non-weirdos generated: although it's plain to see this, that, or the other, actually 'organized' doctrine of different religions are fetishist. That doesn't make believing in God, even if one belongs to one of these religions: and even if one publicly DEFENDS it: one and the same, identical thing.Just as you atheists would never endorse nuclear war: you invented it.You'd never endorse venereal disease: your teachings spread it.You'd never endorse corruption: but the very thing in Enron was 'no higher morality' being exercised: though the top dogs were both VERY religious: and assumedly non religious. Nothing substitutes for morality like enormous wealth: people will use it as an idol to be chased, chastened by, pleased, and even f**king prayed to.Your concept of what religion is, is based on denial of it: therefore you will not be allowed to change. That's one of the rules. When you confess, that the truth is, NO religion is an awful, awful thing: and that religion itself: brings fantastic stability and health, properity and security, that NOTHING else can: THEN you are TELLING the truth: and apparently then able to ACCEPT that truth.Einstein himself was 2/3 in his strongest suit: physics. Being wrong a third of the time still labels him as one of your fondest heroic atheists. a 33% wrong rate: is no place to look for wisdom when that's his STRONG suit: and religion was his WEAK suit. Plus, hes the very guy who was in charge of you Atheists greatest achievement: NUCLEAR WARFARE.So don't come tell US that WE don't know what we're doing. YOU don't have a CLUE about governance; how to soothe a society and make it run well; or even balance the HUNDREDS of MILLIONS killed by atheistic dogma in the last century, alone. The claims of athistic and socialist Europe to being 'on to something good' are belied by their ever present need for somebody else to tell them when to strike: they couldn't reliably flip the switch on the LIGHT BULBS given them by our nation: our atheists and our agnostics, mostly: whom WE nurture.Not the other way around. Christianity provides a safe, secure society: with laws for every contingency: in which atheists and agnostics DO well, because there's very LITTLE actual, forceful mind control Western law is the height of law as its ever been known: far from perfect, wherein it follows the tenets of Christianity: 'do unto others as you'd have them do unto you' and 'love thy neighbor as thyself' it does VERY well in managing diverse peoples:it comes from English Common law etc: heavily influenced by the bible itself.Atheists come onto the internet: sitting under a lightbulb: both given them by the mother culture that nurtured them and their forefathers: and curse their founding mothers and fathers' wisdoms.wrong answer assh**e, and there is a reward in store for you, for doing so. Cynicism.Enjoy it. Because we've got about a thousand years to go, till the return of Christ again: as he shed light on the minds of the founders of the United States; so shall He withdraw his Spirit from the doubting: and they shall be left to their own devices: and their devices involve death, sorrow, cynical self destructiveness, hopelessness, and eventually, a life lain down to a policy of frivolity and caprice.Nobody respects or trusts an Atheist because an Atheist will choke on a gnat: and swallow a camel.An Atheist would try to incorporate screen doors on submarines just because it was fashionable: the way they endorsed homosexuality and general scorn on the law of Chastity: keep thy body pure.getting the HPV VIRUS and the HIV VIRUS as a thank you note to themselves for their 'brilliance' in orchestrating a 25MILLION MAN and WOMAN DEATH MARCH.The same way they scoffed at syphilis; the same way they scoff at Herpes; the same way they scoff at the capitalism that is provided, in a law system that does not teach it is ok to 'covet thy neighbor's house, goods, wife'You people have nothing to show but a dramatic series of HORRIBLE judgement calls while Christianity and Judaism gave you your laws; your medicine; your indoor facilities and your military that protects you from the Muslims, using it's army's INTERNET.pfft. Science? You can't even figure out that dying from AIDS is a BAD thing; and that queers are NOTORIOUS pedophiles: you cant even do anything about the fact that once a person is a sexual predator, they have a VERY high recitivism rate.In other words, Atheism and it's adherents are as stupid as f**king stumps. And most likely, -unless some Christian or Jew or Hindu or Buddhist comes along to save them: they'll shortly be as DEAD as stumps.Atheism is the devil's joke on mankind, about how easy it is to make him evil as- well, evil as the proverbial SNAKE: hissing disbelieve and scorn on wisdom lain down before you were born.
schoonercircusDec 4, 2008
Religion is not ignorance, a lack of perception that disallows you to see the importance of religion to understand the context that it gives to everything international policy, conflict, culture and even scenic is ignorance.
harlexquinnMar 5, 2009
Everyone is ignorant in general!
jimimagetlDec 28, 2011
Where is God? What is His Plan? We all want hope. God of Hope offers exactly that - as it attempts to answer the questions of where God is and what His plan is ... http://on.fb.me/u8q7CK