bloomberg.com— "A lot of people pay zero for the cell phone. Guess why? That's what it's worth,'' Apple Chief Operating Officer Timothy Cook said yesterday.
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(oops forgot to press "reply")@pencilneck:Well, to be honest, Apple and Sony got a quite similar market strategy. The difference is that Sony says they are the best, and delivers worthless products, while Steve Jobs says that they are the best and therefor they are the best (if you know what I mean). Apple has always had this kind of attitude towards other companies, and I believe that is one of the reasons that they are so successful.
Funnily I still don't own a cell by choice... And what I say is, if people want to get in touch with me, then they can get in touch me when I am at home, or in the office. If I need to be on call at any and all times, then I might as well also receive my mail at any and all times...
it amazes me to read through all these comments and see that totally reasonable comments are buried, while asinine angry rants are dugg...apparently Digg is heavily populated by anti-Apple zealots.Let's be honest for a second: the total perceived value of a free phone is $0. - 'cause that's ho much you (think that you) paid for it. there is nothing controversial about it. hasn't everyone heard "i know it's a piece of crap, but i was free!" at least a few times? This apply guy is making that assertion - that the iPhone may seem expensive, but that isn't a bad thing. the iPhone will have perceived (as well as actual) value, instead of being treated like a worthless (read: worth zero dollars) device.I'm curious to see if my comment gets dugg, buried, or just ignored, though i can probably guess which.
@ thirdoptical...what? Have you never heard of SERO? Go to <a class="user" href="http://www.sprint.com/sero">http://www.sprint.com/sero</a> and see for yourself. This is a now-public plan (I believe the current public e-mail access address is savings@sprintemi.com) that costs $29.99/mo for 500 anytime minutes, unlimited EVDO, and more. (I actually pay $25/mo, but that's a different story.) Still a fantasy to you?E-mail support is mediocre? If you cared so much about e-mail, you can pick up a Q with QWERTY for $99. I personally use it just to look at my inbox, so it works well for me. I see nothing wrong with counting Opera Mini as it's a FREE third-party app, as is Google Maps. (Yes, TeleNav GPS has a monthly fee, but AFAIK the iPhone doesn't even offer GPS, so...). The games might not be that great, but they're plentiful (and considering I'm a Tetris junkie, it's good enough for me.)If you believe Orb is a joke for speed and quality, either you're a stickler for quality or you've never tried it. It works just fine on-the-go -- I personally use it to watch Daily Show episodes when I'm away from my computer. I'm actually considering getting finding a smartphone with video out (or a PDA with bluetooth and video out) to use it to stream movies to my TV.This brings me to my next point: No, 4-8GB and WiFi does *not* matter to me. Why? I've beat out DSL with my EVDO connection speed. I can stream anything I damn well please to my phone. I can connect anywhere with more than acceptable speed. I can't imagine why a phone would need 4-8GB to begin with.$229 for the phone? Go back to the website I linked you to. Try $200 less than the price. I've seen local Sprint stores and kiosks give the phone away. If you paid that much, you're getting ripped off. At $45, I would have said the iPhone is an amazing value and would have supported it wholeheartedly, although I wouldn't have bought one for myself. (I dislike the iPhone's lack of tactile feedback.)What people like you don't understand is that you don't need your phone to be a swiss army knife. Trust me -- I mean no disrespect towards the iPhone. I followed the SE P800/900 diligently. I wanted the Moto MPX and Treo 600. But you know what? These phones were far too clunky. They did a lot, but they were very impractical. The Samsung interface, applications, and plan stuck a perfect balance of practicality and functionality.I think Apple solves this issue elegantly, but has priced their phone well above where it should be. This is a consumer phone priced for enterprise, and by doing this they're risking losing the business of both groups. I have yet to hear of any corporations taking the phone as a serious alternative to the Blackberry, nor have I heard of anyone actually wanting to switch to AT&T just for the iPhone.I've referred five people to Sprint in the past month for the very reasons I mention above. Still in disbelief?
by ChumpChief 21 hours ago Keyword: "implying""I never said they were quotes, I said that was the message I took from them. If you disagree that my points are valid, please feel free to post your own opinions."Your opinion is your opinion, that doesn't make it valid. And using quotation marks inappropriately IS MISQUOTING.
Why get the iPhone?Just get a cheap phone thats worth it. Not everyone like touch screens, I myself don't because the screen gets blurred with fingerprints!?Plus, $600 for iPod ($350) + a phone ($0+)!? And enternet on that tiny screen?Thats why i just got myself a nice laptop with enternet, bigger then 3.5" screen, word, games, LimeWire, and more than iPhone could ever do.Plus, how could you post on Digg without a keyboard?iPhone ani't worth it. Deal with it.
Apple is one of the most arrogant companies in the world.If Timothy really thinks he's right, put his money where his mouth is and charge $1000 for the stupid iphone.Let's see how many people line up for it! (Of course all the apple worshippers would pay "ANY" price Apple commands for their goods!)
I think its a cool product, but more importantly it takes a company like Apple to give new direction to the rest.How many razr/krazr's cellphones have come out since the first one? That's not innovation.Companies like Apple (not too many of them) create technology. Most of the others spin it.
radanMar 1, 2007
(oops forgot to press "reply")@pencilneck:Well, to be honest, Apple and Sony got a quite similar market strategy. The difference is that Sony says they are the best, and delivers worthless products, while Steve Jobs says that they are the best and therefor they are the best (if you know what I mean). Apple has always had this kind of attitude towards other companies, and I believe that is one of the reasons that they are so successful.
Closed AccountMar 1, 2007
Funnily I still don't own a cell by choice... And what I say is, if people want to get in touch with me, then they can get in touch me when I am at home, or in the office. If I need to be on call at any and all times, then I might as well also receive my mail at any and all times...
poxonyouMar 1, 2007
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skolargMar 1, 2007
Getting an iphone would be the stupidest way to spend $600 since the PS3 came out - the Sony people should be thankful for the small break.
thirdopticalMar 2, 2007
it amazes me to read through all these comments and see that totally reasonable comments are buried, while asinine angry rants are dugg...apparently Digg is heavily populated by anti-Apple zealots.Let's be honest for a second: the total perceived value of a free phone is $0. - 'cause that's ho much you (think that you) paid for it. there is nothing controversial about it. hasn't everyone heard "i know it's a piece of crap, but i was free!" at least a few times? This apply guy is making that assertion - that the iPhone may seem expensive, but that isn't a bad thing. the iPhone will have perceived (as well as actual) value, instead of being treated like a worthless (read: worth zero dollars) device.I'm curious to see if my comment gets dugg, buried, or just ignored, though i can probably guess which.
naio21Mar 2, 2007
@thunderer: bingo!
pinsomniacMar 2, 2007
@ thirdoptical...what? Have you never heard of SERO? Go to <a class="user" href="http://www.sprint.com/sero">http://www.sprint.com/sero</a> and see for yourself. This is a now-public plan (I believe the current public e-mail access address is savings@sprintemi.com) that costs $29.99/mo for 500 anytime minutes, unlimited EVDO, and more. (I actually pay $25/mo, but that's a different story.) Still a fantasy to you?E-mail support is mediocre? If you cared so much about e-mail, you can pick up a Q with QWERTY for $99. I personally use it just to look at my inbox, so it works well for me. I see nothing wrong with counting Opera Mini as it's a FREE third-party app, as is Google Maps. (Yes, TeleNav GPS has a monthly fee, but AFAIK the iPhone doesn't even offer GPS, so...). The games might not be that great, but they're plentiful (and considering I'm a Tetris junkie, it's good enough for me.)If you believe Orb is a joke for speed and quality, either you're a stickler for quality or you've never tried it. It works just fine on-the-go -- I personally use it to watch Daily Show episodes when I'm away from my computer. I'm actually considering getting finding a smartphone with video out (or a PDA with bluetooth and video out) to use it to stream movies to my TV.This brings me to my next point: No, 4-8GB and WiFi does *not* matter to me. Why? I've beat out DSL with my EVDO connection speed. I can stream anything I damn well please to my phone. I can connect anywhere with more than acceptable speed. I can't imagine why a phone would need 4-8GB to begin with.$229 for the phone? Go back to the website I linked you to. Try $200 less than the price. I've seen local Sprint stores and kiosks give the phone away. If you paid that much, you're getting ripped off. At $45, I would have said the iPhone is an amazing value and would have supported it wholeheartedly, although I wouldn't have bought one for myself. (I dislike the iPhone's lack of tactile feedback.)What people like you don't understand is that you don't need your phone to be a swiss army knife. Trust me -- I mean no disrespect towards the iPhone. I followed the SE P800/900 diligently. I wanted the Moto MPX and Treo 600. But you know what? These phones were far too clunky. They did a lot, but they were very impractical. The Samsung interface, applications, and plan stuck a perfect balance of practicality and functionality.I think Apple solves this issue elegantly, but has priced their phone well above where it should be. This is a consumer phone priced for enterprise, and by doing this they're risking losing the business of both groups. I have yet to hear of any corporations taking the phone as a serious alternative to the Blackberry, nor have I heard of anyone actually wanting to switch to AT&T just for the iPhone.I've referred five people to Sprint in the past month for the very reasons I mention above. Still in disbelief?
Closed AccountMar 2, 2007
by ChumpChief 21 hours ago Keyword: "implying""I never said they were quotes, I said that was the message I took from them. If you disagree that my points are valid, please feel free to post your own opinions."Your opinion is your opinion, that doesn't make it valid. And using quotation marks inappropriately IS MISQUOTING.
cowinapieMar 3, 2007
Why get the iPhone?Just get a cheap phone thats worth it. Not everyone like touch screens, I myself don't because the screen gets blurred with fingerprints!?Plus, $600 for iPod ($350) + a phone ($0+)!? And enternet on that tiny screen?Thats why i just got myself a nice laptop with enternet, bigger then 3.5" screen, word, games, LimeWire, and more than iPhone could ever do.Plus, how could you post on Digg without a keyboard?iPhone ani't worth it. Deal with it.
smartitguyMar 3, 2007
Apple is one of the most arrogant companies in the world.If Timothy really thinks he's right, put his money where his mouth is and charge $1000 for the stupid iphone.Let's see how many people line up for it! (Of course all the apple worshippers would pay "ANY" price Apple commands for their goods!)
scifimaxMar 3, 2007
I think its a cool product, but more importantly it takes a company like Apple to give new direction to the rest.How many razr/krazr's cellphones have come out since the first one? That's not innovation.Companies like Apple (not too many of them) create technology. Most of the others spin it.