businessweek.com— The iPhone maker's complaint against HTC underscores the widening role of the International Trade Commission in cross-border disputes over smartphone tech.
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Apple DID sue Microsoft for alleged GUI infringements and lost. Do some f**king homework.<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microsoft_Corporation" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._ ...</a>See Apple Computer, Inc. v. Microsoft Corporation, 35 F.3d 1435 (9th Cir. 1994)The suit resolved to the "look and feel" is not as important as the processes used to get there. Copying look and feel doesn't mean s**t."The circuit court dissected the GUI, following the lead of the district court, in order to separate expression from ideas (as expression, but not ideas, are covered by copyright law).[4] The court outlined five ideas that it identified as basic to a GUI desktop: windows, icon images of office items, manipulations of icons, menus, and the opening and closing of objects.[1] The court established that Apple could not make copyright claims based on these ideas and could only make claims on the precise expression of them."
More like you're trying to excuse yourself for making an uninformed opinion without apologizing for using facts. When you take out your immature fanboy bias, your comment has absolutely no merit. Buried for pathetic excuse of an argument.
Other companies are free to build multi-touch phones. They just might have to do a little more work than they would like to do.Patents mostly cover "how" an idea is implemented, not the idea itself. You could patent an implementation of the wheel, for example, if you came up with a replacement for ball-bearings ... let's say a wheel with a mag-lev hub.This doesn't mean that no one can build a wheel, or even that no one can build a mag-lev hub wheel. Simply that if they build a mag-lev wheel, they have to invent their own method of doing it, or pay you a royalty if they want to use yours.
@davidlowThere were other touch screen only phones around before the iPhone, but Apple did bring the concept home. Personally I cannot wait until an Android phone with a keyboard and a snapdragon or greater processor comes out so I can ditch my Nexus One that replaced my iPhone 3GS. The iPhone is a great phone, I enjoyed it, and would not have wanted anything else before my Nexus One, but the touch screen and lack of a stylus were always negatives in my book more than positives. I even bought one of the iPhone stylus things to try it out, it sucked more than smudges on my screen. Apple did a good job with the touch interface. But I still maintain the iPhone sold because of the Apple on the back. The thing could have had a iPod wheel on it or what not and would still have sold like hot cakes.
Yeah, I saw the patents and you're right. They're some really stupid claims, but that's solely the problem. Who the heck reviews these patents and hands them out?I don't see the point of trashing Apple--yet. If they win against HTC over these dumb patents, THEN I can see why there would be a putrid hatred towards Apple and their pockets of broad patents.
Microsoft innovates because they need companies to upgrade. They are trying to get companies to rent the software so they no longer have to worry about people holding on to their old ass copy of Office 97 till the end of time. They are essentially competing with themselves. Google is the internet advertising business and search business. They are not in the e-mail business. They are are not in the map business. (Have you tried the new Bing beta map stuff? It's pretty impressive.) You get an excellent services for free and they get more people to look at their ads. All of their phone stuff is to dominate mobile internet advertising as well. Again, look more free stuff: the Android OS. On the other hand people will have to buy new phones regardless because they are physical objects that experience wear and tear. Those things aren't designed to last forever. If you were to lock everyone out with patents, you could continue to sell your phones and get away with incremental upgrades for quite a few years.
sarthaxMar 4, 2010
Apple DID sue Microsoft for alleged GUI infringements and lost. Do some f**king homework.<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microsoft_Corporation" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._ ...</a>See Apple Computer, Inc. v. Microsoft Corporation, 35 F.3d 1435 (9th Cir. 1994)The suit resolved to the "look and feel" is not as important as the processes used to get there. Copying look and feel doesn't mean s**t."The circuit court dissected the GUI, following the lead of the district court, in order to separate expression from ideas (as expression, but not ideas, are covered by copyright law).[4] The court outlined five ideas that it identified as basic to a GUI desktop: windows, icon images of office items, manipulations of icons, menus, and the opening and closing of objects.[1] The court established that Apple could not make copyright claims based on these ideas and could only make claims on the precise expression of them."
th3macdud3Mar 4, 2010
did you go to design school?
Closed AccountMar 4, 2010
More like you're trying to excuse yourself for making an uninformed opinion without apologizing for using facts. When you take out your immature fanboy bias, your comment has absolutely no merit. Buried for pathetic excuse of an argument.
jwdavMar 5, 2010
Other companies are free to build multi-touch phones. They just might have to do a little more work than they would like to do.Patents mostly cover "how" an idea is implemented, not the idea itself. You could patent an implementation of the wheel, for example, if you came up with a replacement for ball-bearings ... let's say a wheel with a mag-lev hub.This doesn't mean that no one can build a wheel, or even that no one can build a mag-lev hub wheel. Simply that if they build a mag-lev wheel, they have to invent their own method of doing it, or pay you a royalty if they want to use yours.
dabestdefenseMar 5, 2010
@davidlowThere were other touch screen only phones around before the iPhone, but Apple did bring the concept home. Personally I cannot wait until an Android phone with a keyboard and a snapdragon or greater processor comes out so I can ditch my Nexus One that replaced my iPhone 3GS. The iPhone is a great phone, I enjoyed it, and would not have wanted anything else before my Nexus One, but the touch screen and lack of a stylus were always negatives in my book more than positives. I even bought one of the iPhone stylus things to try it out, it sucked more than smudges on my screen. Apple did a good job with the touch interface. But I still maintain the iPhone sold because of the Apple on the back. The thing could have had a iPod wheel on it or what not and would still have sold like hot cakes.
25mlMar 5, 2010
Yeah, I saw the patents and you're right. They're some really stupid claims, but that's solely the problem. Who the heck reviews these patents and hands them out?I don't see the point of trashing Apple--yet. If they win against HTC over these dumb patents, THEN I can see why there would be a putrid hatred towards Apple and their pockets of broad patents.
stockloneMar 5, 2010
Microsoft innovates because they need companies to upgrade. They are trying to get companies to rent the software so they no longer have to worry about people holding on to their old ass copy of Office 97 till the end of time. They are essentially competing with themselves. Google is the internet advertising business and search business. They are not in the e-mail business. They are are not in the map business. (Have you tried the new Bing beta map stuff? It's pretty impressive.) You get an excellent services for free and they get more people to look at their ads. All of their phone stuff is to dominate mobile internet advertising as well. Again, look more free stuff: the Android OS. On the other hand people will have to buy new phones regardless because they are physical objects that experience wear and tear. Those things aren't designed to last forever. If you were to lock everyone out with patents, you could continue to sell your phones and get away with incremental upgrades for quite a few years.