Its not "rediculous" (sic) that Nano doesn't support firewire. USB 2.0 is faster. If you have a desktop, get a USB card and use only that for your "multiple iPods", stark23x. Or stop complaining and use another cable. For those with laptops that only support USB 1.1, sorry the world has progressed, but limited upgrades is a limitation you accepted when you bought a laptop. Besides, I didn't whine when I couldn't use my beige G3 because iPod didn't ship with a SCSI cable.
It's pretty f**kin simple:PC owners represent 90%+ of iPod buyers. Most cheap-ass PCs don't have Firewire, and so for the size of the Nano, Apple is giving it up. It all started when they dropped the Firewire cable from the iPod box.This doesn't mean they won't support it in Macs though...
xlr8yourmac.com has posted USB 2.0 benchmarks for the Nano on their Friday front page:<a class="user" href="http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/#s19739">http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/#s19739</a>That link will change once the front page is updated, though. The results are nothing to be sad about.People posting in this thread keep forgetting one important thing: yes firewire is faster, but the transfer rate to iPods is limited by their slow storage devices, flash or magnetic. The iPod mini has a drive running at 4200 RPM *or less*; transferring data to it *will not* even come close to maxing out firewire 400's bandwidth.Firewire was put on iPods in the first place because at their initial release USB 1.1 was far too inept for the task of transferring gigabytes of information in a timely manner.
sacrifice for the size. the comm port... yeah no itrip but the itrip blows.and the remote has marginal use overall in my opinion. Just buck up and wire your car... you car dor it for about the same price of an itrip in most cases now.besides the itrip and remote i dont see any devices that are really that compelling. besides, how much can you expect out of one little device
Ok, here we are a year out from the last comment on this topic. So how does everyone feel now? I have to admit, sometimes I am slow to catch on...I JUST bought a NANO 8GB device, and brought it home, plugged it into my "custom built" machine, only to find the canned message that I was not going to be able to use that $35 firewire cable. So why does it bother me? Subtle reason. All my USB ports that have enough power are in the BACK of my PC. I have one Firewire port on the front of my PC, on the Soundblaster panel. That makes it convenient as hell.A lot of people are shooting back at firewire users, saying "gee, all you have to do is truck your dumb butt down to the local PC supplier, and fork out MORE cash to be able to use your new $250 iPod." Do you not recognize the angst that goes along with forking out money only to be told that your current "accessories we already encouraged you to buy" don't work anymore?You might think I am against this transition. Truthfully, I am not. For the sake of smaller, faster (USB 2.0 operates at 480mbps, firewire at 400mpbs) LEANER componentry, I am willing to bite the bullet. I happened to have both USB and Firewire, reaily available, but I ALWAYS knew there'd be a prevailiing technology. I was not sure when Firewire first hit the scene, but anyone who didn't see it coming a long time ago, just was NOT paying attention. It's all about marketing dollars, and Intel/Microsoft unfortunately won that game.As for me, I'll just have to find a new place to put my Nano. The supplied cable doesn't reach far enough to put my new Nano nest to my Saturday Morning coffee cup coaster.
bobetrSep 10, 2005
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flavius731Sep 10, 2005
Its not "rediculous" (sic) that Nano doesn't support firewire. USB 2.0 is faster. If you have a desktop, get a USB card and use only that for your "multiple iPods", stark23x. Or stop complaining and use another cable. For those with laptops that only support USB 1.1, sorry the world has progressed, but limited upgrades is a limitation you accepted when you bought a laptop. Besides, I didn't whine when I couldn't use my beige G3 because iPod didn't ship with a SCSI cable.
hyper7Sep 10, 2005
"Didn't Apple say they aren't going to support firewire anymore a while ago?"Yes i believe they did.
terry2Sep 10, 2005
Boo to Apple! Firewire is much better/
alexalbrechtsuxSep 10, 2005
It's pretty f**kin simple:PC owners represent 90%+ of iPod buyers. Most cheap-ass PCs don't have Firewire, and so for the size of the Nano, Apple is giving it up. It all started when they dropped the Firewire cable from the iPod box.This doesn't mean they won't support it in Macs though...
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xlr8yourmac.com has posted USB 2.0 benchmarks for the Nano on their Friday front page:<a class="user" href="http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/#s19739">http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/#s19739</a>That link will change once the front page is updated, though. The results are nothing to be sad about.People posting in this thread keep forgetting one important thing: yes firewire is faster, but the transfer rate to iPods is limited by their slow storage devices, flash or magnetic. The iPod mini has a drive running at 4200 RPM *or less*; transferring data to it *will not* even come close to maxing out firewire 400's bandwidth.Firewire was put on iPods in the first place because at their initial release USB 1.1 was far too inept for the task of transferring gigabytes of information in a timely manner.
sirbriggsSep 11, 2005
Isn't FireWire better?
earthtoandySep 11, 2005
sacrifice for the size. the comm port... yeah no itrip but the itrip blows.and the remote has marginal use overall in my opinion. Just buck up and wire your car... you car dor it for about the same price of an itrip in most cases now.besides the itrip and remote i dont see any devices that are really that compelling. besides, how much can you expect out of one little device
bigbluebottleSep 24, 2006
Ok, here we are a year out from the last comment on this topic. So how does everyone feel now? I have to admit, sometimes I am slow to catch on...I JUST bought a NANO 8GB device, and brought it home, plugged it into my "custom built" machine, only to find the canned message that I was not going to be able to use that $35 firewire cable. So why does it bother me? Subtle reason. All my USB ports that have enough power are in the BACK of my PC. I have one Firewire port on the front of my PC, on the Soundblaster panel. That makes it convenient as hell.A lot of people are shooting back at firewire users, saying "gee, all you have to do is truck your dumb butt down to the local PC supplier, and fork out MORE cash to be able to use your new $250 iPod." Do you not recognize the angst that goes along with forking out money only to be told that your current "accessories we already encouraged you to buy" don't work anymore?You might think I am against this transition. Truthfully, I am not. For the sake of smaller, faster (USB 2.0 operates at 480mbps, firewire at 400mpbs) LEANER componentry, I am willing to bite the bullet. I happened to have both USB and Firewire, reaily available, but I ALWAYS knew there'd be a prevailiing technology. I was not sure when Firewire first hit the scene, but anyone who didn't see it coming a long time ago, just was NOT paying attention. It's all about marketing dollars, and Intel/Microsoft unfortunately won that game.As for me, I'll just have to find a new place to put my Nano. The supplied cable doesn't reach far enough to put my new Nano nest to my Saturday Morning coffee cup coaster.